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[nathanrutledge]

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2929996

[TheUrbanMyth]

[ThingsComeAround]

[jvalmer]

Next election I hope the guys running the MOE in Gyeonggi and Seoul will be booted out. They can't just throw corporal punishment completely out without of thinking viable alternative and a transition period. It's like they saw a documentary on some elite American private school and figured all schools are like that and decided to emulate it.

Anyways, I find it rich that people argue for kids rights. A smack to the butt is not going to harm anyone. We don't give children full rights anyways like voting, travelling, drinking and smoking.

[balzor]

[balzor]

"The final step is to order the student to a so-called �introspection room,� where an education consultant is available for advice, or where the student can read or study."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA HA

[chris_J2]

The article also states that the ban on corporal punishment will be implemented nationally.

[jvalmer]

[SparkleKorea]

Corporal punishment in schools is the foundational fabric of the Korean character. I would be infuriated to see it go.

[Captain Corea]

[BoholDiver]

Me too. I'll be so infuriated, I'll start beatg my students down.

Oops, I can't do that anymore.

[mmstyle]

Yep, at my school, there is a new counselor, where the teachers are supposed to send the students rather than punish them. She is trained in psychology and counseling.

That said, there is no system set up, there seems to be little direction for what to do, my school has no idea what to do with her, and the teachers don't know how to transition the students to her, although they will sometimes pressure her to do things how they think she ought to.

This set up is temporary, as apparently the district has not decided if this will be a permanent program (her position is currently temporary), which it seems, all comes down to funding. Apparently, there is some discussion as to whether the only room available in the school (the computer room was gutted last week, which will disappoint many of my students) will be a counseling room or the new English Zone.

It's weird for me to have more security than someone else at my school, and for me to be the one advising her about the school culture. I think this is a test to see whether or not they can suddenly come up with a way to deal with the lack of punishment options.

[pkang0202]

My school has pink slips that deduct points off of students grades. On the pink slips are listed all the major offenses and the number of points to be taken off.

I'm at an academic high school so this method is effective for students to care about their grades. The students who aspire to be hair stylists and makeup artists are immune to the pink slips.

In schools nowadays, teachers have no power. The MOE caved to the parents and gave the parents all the power. In the parents' eyes, their child isn't the problem, its the school and the teacher's failure to properly instruct their child.

I can't imagine the hell it must be like in a vocational high school.

[SinclairLondon]

I feel bad for the K-teachers in poorer areas. Middle school kids are tough. Middle school kids neglected by their parents and teachers are really tough. Neglected middle school kids, crammed thirty-forty in class, stressed out for hours of uncecessary studying and who know they aren't going to amount to $hit if life continues this way, are really, really tough. Have you taught in an intercity school back home?

And most of these teachers were academically successful in their high schools. Although they do present a higher standard for kids to aspire to, they can't really relate to most of their students, who struggle for different reasons. Its like shipping in a bunch of white liberal grads to the projects to inspire the black youth. Please. Worlds apart.

Thats why I like the Finnish style of education. Although they now realize they haven't given enough support to their elite students, they would provide an extra teacher in the classroom for students who were falling behind. My school in the states did the same. In my 10th grade English class, full of intercity kid, immigrants and suburban punks like myself, we had three teachers: main teacher, assistant and a student teacher. We all received lots of attention; we couldn't gang up on the teacher; covered lots of Amerian literature that year.

And I feel bad for the kids. We know a lot of their time is being wasted. So they do. Except for being socialized into accepting that salient feature of their future lives, schooling doesn't do much for them. And they know this.