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Time Magazine on South Korea's English Teachers HIV/AIDS
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Los Angeloser



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Time Magazine on South Korea's English Teachers HIV/AIDS Reply with quote

It's good more people outside S. Korea will learn about how foreign teachers must take HIV/AIDS test but not ethnic Koreans and those here on the "Entertainment" visa.
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/12/debate-on-hiv-tests-for-foreign-english.html
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Time Magazine on South Korea's English Teachers HIV/AIDS Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
It's good more people outside S. Korea will learn about how foreign teachers must take HIV/AIDS test but not ethnic Koreans and those here on the "Entertainment" visa.
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/12/debate-on-hiv-tests-for-foreign-english.html


However no one outside of English teachers here and their families will really care...as they just can't relate to this. And especially given the global turndown, most people have other things to think of.


And so it goes.
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RMNC



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, how many English teachers in South Korea actually have HIV/AIDS?

One maybe? Two? I want to see some numbers, because it can't be that many.
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Los Angeloser



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Time Magazine on South Korea's English Teachers HIV/AIDS Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Los Angeloser wrote:
It's good more people outside S. Korea will learn about how foreign teachers must take HIV/AIDS test but not ethnic Koreans and those here on the "Entertainment" visa.
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/12/debate-on-hiv-tests-for-foreign-english.html


However no one outside of English teachers here and their families will really care...as they just can't relate to this. And especially given the global turndown, most people have other things to think of.


And so it goes.


Why did you say "it's good" that nobody will care outside S. Korea? You're really outrageous you know it UrbanMyth.


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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ethnic Koreans on E-2 visas still get tested.
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Los Angeloser



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Ethnic Koreans on E-2 visas still get tested.


I'd say many more don't get tested than do.
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madoka



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Time Magazine on South Korea's English Teachers HIV/AIDS Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Los Angeloser wrote:
It's good more people outside S. Korea will learn about how foreign teachers must take HIV/AIDS test but not ethnic Koreans and those here on the "Entertainment" visa.
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/12/debate-on-hiv-tests-for-foreign-english.html


However no one outside of English teachers here and their families will really care...as they just can't relate to this. And especially given the global turndown, most people have other things to think of.


And so it goes.


Why did you say "it's good" that nobody will care outside S. Korea? You're really outrageous you know it UrbanMyth.


Forget the AIDS test. Koreans should strictly enforce a reading comprehension test. That will eliminate a good 70% of Dave posters. Add a common sense section and you've cut out another 20%. Laughing
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tanklor1



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no problem with the HIV test but it should be broadened to everyone who wants to work here.
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Troglodyte



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Time Magazine on South Korea's English Teachers HIV/AIDS Reply with quote

Los Angeloser wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Los Angeloser wrote:
It's good more people outside S. Korea will learn about how foreign teachers must take HIV/AIDS test but not ethnic Koreans and those here on the "Entertainment" visa.
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/12/debate-on-hiv-tests-for-foreign-english.html


However no one outside of English teachers here and their families will really care...as they just can't relate to this. And especially given the global turndown, most people have other things to think of.


And so it goes.


Why did you say "it's good" that nobody will care outside S. Korea? You're really outrageous you know it UrbanMyth.


Where did he say that "it's good"?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Time Magazine on South Korea's English Teachers HIV/AIDS Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Los Angeloser wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Los Angeloser wrote:
It's good more people outside S. Korea will learn about how foreign teachers must take HIV/AIDS test but not ethnic Koreans and those here on the "Entertainment" visa.
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/12/debate-on-hiv-tests-for-foreign-english.html


However no one outside of English teachers here and their families will really care...as they just can't relate to this. And especially given the global turndown, most people have other things to think of.


And so it goes.


Why did you say "it's good" that nobody will care outside S. Korea? You're really outrageous you know it UrbanMyth.


Forget the AIDS test. Koreans should strictly enforce a reading comprehension test. That will eliminate a good 70% of Dave posters. Add a common sense section and you've cut out another 20%. Laughing


In Mr. L.A's defense I do believe he is referring to my original post in which I said "Is it also good that nobody outside of English teachers here and their families back home will really care?" (But then I considered that this might be taken as sarcasm and so I edited it to make the meaning clearer)

That said your remark about the reading test still has validity as it was a question and not a statement as Mr. L.A is attempting to make it look above. Not only that but I also mentioned English teachers' families back home so I'm not sure where he gets the "outside of South Korea" from. That's strictly his creativity/imagination speaking.
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geldedgoat



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Ethnic Koreans on E-2 visas still get tested.


Ethnic Koreans only get E-2s if they can't prove their ethnicity.

Hopefully this story will hit the Korean papers, embarrassing Korean lawmakers to put a stop to this and other ridiculous inconsistencies in Kimmi policies.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geldedgoat wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Ethnic Koreans on E-2 visas still get tested.


Ethnic Koreans only get E-2s if they can't prove their ethnicity.

Hopefully this story will hit the Korean papers, embarrassing Korean lawmakers to put a stop to this and other ridiculous inconsistencies in Kimmi policies.


There have been two or three such stories in the Korean papers about foreign teachers on E-2 visas and the AIDS/drug tests . If memory serves me right one such article provoked Immigration to such an extent, the regional head apparently felt called upon to issue a rebuttal which basically stated that the tests are here to stay.

And as for your hopes of embarrassing Korean lawmakers...I would say that if the fear of embarrassment in foreign newspapers doesn't stop them from brawling while in session, this TIME story isn't going to cut the mustard. Laughing
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geldedgoat wrote:
Hopefully this story will hit the Korean papers, embarrassing Korean lawmakers to put a stop to this and other ridiculous inconsistencies in Kimmi policies.


What makes you think that the policy-makers are embarrassed by any of this? Evidently, said polcy-makers are proud of their prejudices. The only reaction you'll get is either they'll completely ignore the foreign press or they'll complain that the foreign press "doesn't undersand Korean culture."


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geldedgoat



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
And as for your hopes of embarrassing Korean lawmakers...I would say that if the fear of embarrassment in foreign newspapers doesn't stop them from brawling while in session, this TIME story isn't going to cut the mustard. Laughing


Well... fair enough. Though I think they probably write the fights off as a cultural difference. Wink

Still, I can hope, can't I?
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geldedgoat wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Ethnic Koreans on E-2 visas still get tested.

Ethnic Koreans only get E-2s if they can't prove their ethnicity..

Nope, ethnic Koreans get E-2s if they apply for it.
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