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winaniw



Joined: 18 Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: 40-hour work weeks Reply with quote

Every job single hagwon advertisement I've seen advertises 38-45 working hours per week. Hours generally looks something like 9am-6pm or 1-9pm. Should I keep hunting for better hours, or is this the norm?
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bbud656



Joined: 15 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its teaching hours that matter. You are going to be at school for close to 40 hours. Just depends on how much of that you are actually working. Public school teachers are all close to a 9-5 schedule. If you can get less than 30 teaching hours at a hagwon, thats not bad.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbud656 wrote:
Its teaching hours that matter. You are going to be at school for close to 40 hours. Just depends on how much of that you are actually working. Public school teachers are all close to a 9-5 schedule. If you can get less than 30 teaching hours at a hagwon, thats not bad.


While it is true that public school teachers are close to a 9-5 schedule most have only around 22 teaching hours (it's in the contract). Whereas most hakwons nowadays also want you there for around 40 hours a week at least 30 of them are teaching and the rest doing prep/meetings/reports/phone teaching...
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winaniw



Joined: 18 Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to know. So if I'm looking at two similar hagwons,
Hagwon A with 28 classes but 42 on-campus hours
vs
Hagwon B with 35 classes but only 37 on-campus hours,
you would vote for Hagwon A?
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. In addition to how many hours you are teaching, you have to consider how many classes are in the teaching time. Preparing for a 45 minute class is not much less work than preparing for a 55 minute class, but those extra 10 minutes add easily add up to an extra class per day.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im guessing the recruiters are telling the hagwon owners about how many forieigners are applying for the jobs, so theyre expanding the hours to get more bang for their whitey buck.

of course, the number applying and the numbers making it all the way here with the documents and mess are different.
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winaniw



Joined: 18 Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Come To Korea - Catch The Trailing End Of A Dying Beast!"
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

winaniw wrote:
"Come To Korea - Catch The Trailing End Of A Dying Beast!"


it's true.
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, but once everyone moves onto China, the market may get good again. The locals will now compete more fiercely for the coveted English cup!
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carleverson



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether you teach for 40, 30, or even 25 hours per week, you WILL be totally and utterly exhausted by the end of your day. If you wanted to work this hard you could have stayed in your home country.

On top of that, salaries haven't risen in years. Starting salaries are what they were 5-6 years ago. Rolling Eyes
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happiness wrote:
Im guessing the recruiters are telling the hagwon owners about how many forieigners are applying for the jobs, so theyre expanding the hours to get more bang for their whitey buck.

of course, the number applying and the numbers making it all the way here with the