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What were the signs your marriage was over?
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isitts



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:25 am    Post subject: Re: What were the signs your marriage was over? Reply with quote

fromtheuk wrote:

On that 'uplifting' note, what made you realize it was time for a divorce?


It's over as soon as you have an expectation of what marriage is. If you say things like, "I want a wife/husband who (blah blah blah)", then it's not going to last because you're taking some idea you imagined in your head and trying to superimpose it on a real person.

It also helps to realize that you are also a real person and probably don't fit the mold of someone else's ideal husband/wife.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know your marriage is over when...oh my God, i've been avoiding this thread coz it hurts...it hurts. Crying or Very sad i've just recently divorced and it hurts because i want to get back together but she thinks i'm dirt. Crying or Very sad

well, i did things that were slightly unethical to me but to her were, well... Crying or Very sad i'll never go to Thailand/Phillipines/Cambodia again alone without my ball n' chain! Crying or Very sad

please, not, when is the marriage over, but, how can you get your spouse to love you again when you've been a total loveless jerk? please, change the title of this thread coz i've posted on it! Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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isitts



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loveless wrote:
you know your marriage is over when...oh my God, i've been avoiding this thread coz it hurts...it hurts. Crying or Very sad i've just recently divorced and it hurts because i want to get back together but she thinks i'm dirt. Crying or Very sad

well, i did things that were slightly unethical to me but to her were, well... Crying or Very sad i'll never go to Thailand/Phillipines/Cambodia again alone without my ball n' chain! Crying or Very sad

please, not, when is the marriage over, but, how can you get your spouse to love you again when you've been a total loveless jerk? please, change the title of this thread coz i've posted on it! Crying or Very sad


%#@!, loveless! I just got through bringing us back on topic! Now you want to change the thread title?

The answer to your question is simple, but hard to do: forgive yourself.
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Globutron



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
He managed to spend hundreds of thousands on Darwin knows what. A bastard kid, hookers, gambling, I don't know. This was future house money. I don't care about the money, though. I care about the lying. I'd even offered to let him take a year off when work was stressful, and that I'd support him. It's his loss.



H of T of won or dollars?
Would you be content with him if he openly told you about his hookers and toad racing, then?
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isitts



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
He managed to spend hundreds of thousands on Darwin knows what. A bastard kid, hookers, gambling, I don't know. This was future house money. I don't care about the money, though. I care about the lying. I'd even offered to let him take a year off when work was stressful, and that I'd support him. It's his loss.


Ka-boom! Number one reason takes it again. Money.

Yeah that's a doozie, there. He obviously wasn't thinking about your future.

...Although...was that all his money or was some/most/all of it yours? I would still say expectation was the hidden culprit.

Anyway, that was a no brainer decision for you Smile That's a the nice kind of break that you don't feel bad about.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isitts wrote:
loveless wrote:
you know your marriage is over when...oh my God, i've been avoiding this thread coz it hurts...it hurts. Crying or Very sad i've just recently divorced and it hurts because i want to get back together but she thinks i'm dirt. Crying or Very sad

well, i did things that were slightly unethical to me but to her were, well... Crying or Very sad i'll never go to Thailand/Phillipines/Cambodia again alone without my ball n' chain! Crying or Very sad

please, not, when is the marriage over, but, how can you get your spouse to love you again when you've been a total loveless jerk? please, change the title of this thread coz i've posted on it! Crying or Very sad


%#@!, loveless! I just got through bringing us back on topic! Now you want to change the thread title?

The answer to your question is simple, but hard to do: forgive yourself.


i'm so loveless and i just dont know what to do! Crying or Very sad

i'm still in love with her! Embarassed

even after all the pain and struggle...so, in love with her... Crying or Very sad

there's a bra that she left behind with the scent of her usual perfume that i can't stop smelling every time i think of her at night... gee, am i crazy? love-crazy or lovedrunk..or just insane? oh my, gee...am i to blame? Crying or Very sad

i call and just wait and listen if her angelic voice will greet me, 'ang-yong'!
...but it never does... Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
isitts wrote:
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
He managed to spend hundreds of thousands on Darwin knows what. A bastard kid, hookers, gambling, I don't know. This was future house money. I don't care about the money, though. I care about the lying. I'd even offered to let him take a year off when work was stressful, and that I'd support him. It's his loss.


Ka-boom! Number one reason takes it again. Money.

Yeah that's a doozie, there. He obviously wasn't thinking about your future.

...Although...was that all his money or was some/most/all of it yours? I would still say expectation was the hidden culprit.

Anyway, that was a no brainer decision for you Smile That's a the nice kind of break that you don't feel bad about.


No. It was time, not money.

Money wasn't the reason. I'd have been with him if he were a pauper. I loved HIM. I offered to pay for HIM. What bothers me is the lying. He was away for months at a time because he was "saving" and "work was very important." I justified missing him because he said he wanted to save up. I told him to take a break and chill out here for a year, write a book, de-stress. He said his job was on shaky ground so he had to work. Now that I know he was squandering everything on whatever, I'm more angry that I wasted time. Money comes and goes. I want my 3 years of mostly separation back.


is he a writer? coz, i'm kinda of a writer, too, believe it or not! Wink

well, my point is that writers make up characters, settings and plots that are surreal and not true at times. yet, they can make it seem true and even convince you that's it's all real and genuine for their publishing sake. gee, i hope you know what i mean? like character actors, writers can become the protagonist or even the antagonist of their stories! Shocked i've done it myself and my Korean ex-wife just doesn't get it(God bless her lovely soul)! Confused

just a thought, though... Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have hundreds of thousands of dollars you can have disappear without really affecting your standard of life in any way, other than being upset that you had been lied to?

to reiterate... HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars? And you honestly don't care about that, just the lying?

You some kind of millionaire teacher?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
He was a writer, in fact, but not as his main job. It was a hobby. He wasn't a great writer, though I told him that he was brilliant, as any good partner would. He'd get offended whenever I edited heavily, so, after my first edit, I learned to just copyedit, and skip the real developmental work.

He may have just been a compulsive shopper, though. He bought a very expensive messenger bag, scratched it the first week (it was a kind of leather that scratches easily), and bought the same exact bag the next week. I took the scratched on, and it's covered now, and looks lovely. Laughing

He's an idiot with money, but I can't fathom how he blew that much without some vice or dark secret. Honestly, whatever it is, I'd like to know, because it's driving me nuts trying to figure it out. Perhaps he needed a Korean style marriage, with his wife holding the purse strings. Either way, he lied to me and I won't forgive him for that.

Again, though, I don't care that it's gone. I care that I wasted a few years of near always separation for a BS excuse. This was after 4 years of being together all the time. Those 4 years were grand, so I figured that I could trust him.


you have done the right thing. i respect you for your courage and commend you for your candor and self-independence. Cool

you are a survivor, a winner and somebody i wish was my friend.

i am still struggling to come to grips with my divorce and i just can't seem to let her go! Crying or Very sad she seems to possess my soul and haunts the very essence of my being...i just can't accept her leaving... Crying or Very sad

please, what advice can you offer me that will release me from this agony? Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 years of salary...

1 million dollars on nothing...
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