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Anybody Have a Gongbu-Bang? (Study Room)
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Anybody Have a Gongbu-Bang? (Study Room) Reply with quote

I have a friend of a friend who owns a study room and claims to make over 10,000,000KRW/month. This is conceivable since you can charge upwards of 200,000KRW per student and all you need is 50 of them. Also, you don't need a license and you needn't pay taxes until you make over 10,000,000KRW/month. This person has a nice ground floor apartment in a large apartment complex where he has been teaching freelance for years. He has an F-2. I also have an F-2 and consistently make between 5-6M KRW/month. But staying home and clearing 10M/month seems to me to be the way to go. Also, I feel 5-6M KRW/month is a little bit like a glass ceiling for freelance work. Anyone have experience doing this?
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Troglodyte



Joined: 06 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a Korean who had a study room. He said that the amount you make in a month depends on a lot of stuff like, location, how nice the place looks, and most importantly the time of year. He said that it fluctuates a LOT depending on exams periods and such. Still, he said that he preferred it to running a hogwan.
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minos



Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew a korean guy running one....he tutored me in Korean using it.

Seemed like it worked great.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first of all, your friend of a friend is working an Illegal business!
if he was ever caught he would be fined and back taxes would be paid,.
please be advised, running a study room has its limitations. you are only allowed to charge per student what the STATE says.
of course running the study room illegally, hey, so be it...

I knew of a Korean guy who was clearing 150 million a month from his study room in Daechi dong. thats right... 150 million won.. you read that right.

A MONTH! but he eventually got caught. and the IRS came down on him real hard. and his room is now closed.

foreigners who teach privates for 50.000 an hour..
thats illegal... TAX free money..
the mother and the teacher can both be in trouble if caught.
but this is Korea. and crimes are broken by everyone everyday.

you know the old saying. " Crime Pays"
It's all fun and games until you get caught.
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

150 mil a month? C'mon

That's 5 mil a day (with no weekends, mind you).

Say, working 10 hours a day, that's 500k/hour.

Who really has wall to wall students lining up to pay 500k an hour? Is he Confucius or Socrates?
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FDNY



Joined: 27 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I remember some Korean American getting busted in Gangnam for operation an illegal cram school for the soonung (Korean SAT). He was pulling in 10,000,000/student for about 3 months intensive classes. I tried to search this on the Korean Herald and Times, but unfortunately their search function is worse than this one. He was a special case. He was widely known in the neighborhood and he already had an extremely expensive apartment in Gangnam to work from.

I'm talking about a study room. I see them ALL the time and I see them ADVERTISING all the time. So if it is ILLEGAL, then the cops, or whoever, must be blind, don't care, are getting paid off, or all of the above.

Anyways, like I said. I'm gonna smash my way through that glass ceiling.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
first of all, your friend of a friend is working an Illegal business!
if he was ever caught he would be fined and back taxes would be paid,.
please be advised, running a study room has its limitations. you are only allowed to charge per student what the STATE says.
of course running the study room illegally, hey, so be it...

I knew of a Korean guy who was clearing 150 million a month from his study room in Daechi dong. thats right... 150 million won.. you read that right.

A MONTH! but he eventually got caught. and the IRS came down on him real hard. and his room is now closed.

foreigners who teach privates for 50.000 an hour..
thats illegal... TAX free money..
the mother and the teacher can both be in trouble if caught.
but this is Korea. and crimes are broken by everyone everyday.

you know the old saying. " Crime Pays"
It's all fun and games until you get caught.

There was a story about a guy running that place a few months ago. He had a massive place, had several university students working for him, helping him teach. The IRS doesn't have much jurisdiction in Korea.

As for for foreigners, anyone on an F-series can legally teach privates if they register for it.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY wrote:


So if it is ILLEGAL, then the cops, or whoever, must be blind, don't care, are getting paid off, or all of the above.



Red Light districts, Vendors, study rooms, privates, fake goods etc..
they are here, they are Illegal.
like I said. it's all fun and games until you get caught.

people get busted all the time for the examples I listed above.
cops are paid off, fines are paid, people are arrested. but the next day they are back at it.

just be careful because there are rewards given to anyone who reports an illegal study room. something like 1-2 million won if an arrest is made.
most people who report them are Security guards at Apartments and hakwons who feel threatened by the competition.

goodluck dude...
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:


As for for foreigners, anyone on an F-series can legally teach privates if they register for it.


yes, but you are not allowed to charge what ever you want.
there are rules, regulations and maximum amount of students and money you are allowed to make.

for more information check with your local GU CHUNG
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FDNY,

I run a legal Study Room; registered with the dong office. I've been doing it for four years now. It is a legit business and it has paid well. It has its ups and downs and while 10million is certainly not impossible, it would be difficult to make that much. Alot of people, tend to exaggerate their income. I can say now, that living in Songdo, it has become very difficult to drum up students these days. Perhaps, I'm not working as hard as I should, maybe I'm a shitty teacher... But I really think it's the fact that I took a holiday to Canada this summer and have not been able to get more students. Also, the market is not good and the fact that Songdo has exploded withan insane amount of Hogwons lately.

Still, I only work from 3:00pm to 8:00 pm and with my uni gig, I make a fair amount of money by EFL teachers standards. Not 10 mil though.

I would recommend moving to a newer place where not many foreigners live and I would recommend at least a 42 pyeong apartment. You and your wife will have to deal with nonsense from moms, a little more often, if you have kids like me, it will be a bit hectic, but it is great to be finished and not drive through traffic. I spen a good deal more time with my family as well because of it.

Best of luck
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
crossmr wrote:


As for for foreigners, anyone on an F-series can legally teach privates if they register for it.


yes, but you are not allowed to charge what ever you want.
there are rules, regulations and maximum amount of students and money you are allowed to make.

for more information check with your local GU CHUNG

If you only get a tutoring license, yes. A tutoring license is available to anyone who has graduated high school and has ridiculous restrictions.
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interestedinhanguk



Joined: 23 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
you are only allowed to charge per student what the STATE says.


The State? What state?
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I knew of a Korean guy who was clearing 150 million a month from his study room in Daechi dong.



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crimes are broken by everyone everyday.
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chungbukdo



Joined: 22 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:

If you only get a tutoring license, yes. A tutoring license is available to anyone who has graduated high school and has ridiculous restrictions.

Is there a study room lisence? Or?
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chungbukdo wrote:
crossmr wrote:

If you only get a tutoring license, yes. A tutoring license is available to anyone who has graduated high school and has ridiculous restrictions.

Is there a study room lisence? Or?

A teacher's certificate is different from a tutoring license.
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get a Study Room License from your Local Dong office.

You simply need to show your Visa, degree and fill out a dew forms.
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