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thegadfly
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| willteachforfood wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| In all seriousness, jrwhite asks pertinent questions and does contribute to the contract thread, I think his questions should be answered as it will help lots of people down the road. |
It truly blows my mind how seriously you take this message board.
What would you do to fill the void in your life if Dave's ESL were to cease to exist? |
...so a slight breeze would also blow your mind?
Patrick is very helpful here. His serious answers do some good in this online community. There are a ton of trolls and flamers here, but very few folks that consistently try to help with their responses and feedback. If those folks did NOT take it seriously, this place would be much poorer for it.
What do you offer? |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| TheresaTheresa wrote: |
| St8ofTheArt wrote: |
| Black guy, no experience, no education degree, 2.5 mil first year, blue eyes my ass. |
Have to agree with you there, bud. |
Why doesn't this troll name his hagwon?
Or atleast help this guy out:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=200357
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willteachforfood
Joined: 24 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| thegadfly wrote: |
| What do you offer? |
I'll have a few books for sale as soon as my girlfriend finishes the one she's reading now, which is the last of the lot we want to sell.
Patrick does give good information....but he also gives terrible information. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| willteachforfood wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
| What do you offer? |
I'll have a few books for sale as soon as my girlfriend finishes the one she's reading now, which is the last of the lot we want to sell.
Patrick does give good information....but he also gives terrible information. |
Didn't say he was perfect -- the only poster that might always give good information is Ttom.  |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| thegadfly wrote: |
...so a slight breeze would also blow your mind?
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Coming from a sewage treatment plant or a landfill, yes. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'll have a few books for sale as soon as my girlfriend finishes the one she's reading now, which is the last of the lot we want to sell.
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Cheapskate. Take them into work or a book exchange |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
...so a slight breeze would also blow your mind?
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Coming from a sewage treatment plant or a landfill, yes. |
 Ba-dum-bum-tssh! |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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This topic is getting way off track!
I made a survey to find out some info. Please check it out here:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TQ6XHNZ |
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St8ofTheArt
Joined: 02 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| jrwhite82 wrote: |
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| Black guy, no experience, no education degree, 2.5 mil first year, blue eyes my ass. |
That's great to hear and I'm happy when anyone gets more than the standard that has been in place for many years. It hopefully means that wages will move upwards instead of down or staying stagnant. However, I think you might be an exception on this one. Even disregarding race, you are an exception to the hagwon pay scale.
What is your housing, vacation, work area, work responsiblities, working hours?
Did you get the job through a recruiter or a reference? Did you negotiate with the owner or was this the initial offer?
The reason I ask, is I take an active role in reviewing contracts in the contract sticky and I'd like to give the most accurate advice possible. I also like to know how often people are successful negotiating terms and what they usually win on.
Either way, it goes to show everyone that there are good jobs out there. You just have to look hard enough. |
Yeah I just wanted to state that it was possible to get paid on the higher end. Now, looking for jobs again I will admit that it was a lucky exception.
It was with Chung Dahm in Ansan. Housing was a loft, pretty big with the upstairs area, vacation was quite horrible: 1 week, and we worked most holidays but when it came down to it I was fine with it considering the salary. Working hours were 4p-10p MTTHF 230p-830p W.
Work area? Like in the school or outside? In school we had our own classrooms, no co-teachers, supplies given. Outside the school we were like a block away from the 2001 Outlet in Gojan, Ansan. Other than teaching by the book, we had (sometimes)weekly reports and monthly reports, meetings from time to time and nothing else major.
Found the job by recruiter on career builder where I saw a link for Aclipse, then applied through Aclipse. No negotiations, that was the offer.
Being back in the states now, makes me wonder why I ever left but I guess I had some things to attend to here so oh well I guess I'll be taking a 2-300,000w pay cut for my second year.....shoot me. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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Thats a pretty sweet gig (minus the vacation). Especially for Chung Dahm, which is consistently one of the most complained about schools on here.
I think this stands as an example of the bias of this board regarding how many complaints there are vs. the reality of teaching in Korea. I'm not saying the complaints aren't valid, but more people come here for help or to vent. Which unfairly represents most teachers who are off enjoying themselves.
Thanks for the info. Cheers. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| willteachforfood wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
| What do you offer? |
I'll have a few books for sale as soon as my girlfriend finishes the one she's reading now, which is the last of the lot we want to sell.
Patrick does give good information....but he also gives terrible information. |
I do my best to help others on the board, via pm or email. I also respond to the more ridiculous or demeaning stuff because its sometimes amusing or needs to be said.
No one is perfect right but exactly what to you offer here besides sarcasm willteachforfood? |
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soyoungmikey
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Basically they try to pay the least amount. Pure and simple. They'll lowball you and if you take it great. If they can pay less and get more they will. I forgot the qualifications: white, speaks english and can walk and chew gum. |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| soyoungmikey wrote: |
| Basically they try to pay the least amount. Pure and simple. They'll lowball you and if you take it great. If they can pay less and get more they will. I forgot the qualifications: white, speaks english and can walk and chew gum. |
Same thing at my old hagwon. My boss openly admitted he couldn't pay me what I wanted for my second contract because all of the Hagwons in the area (about 20) had a set price range they paid for western teachers. |
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St8ofTheArt
Joined: 02 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| ThingsComeAround wrote: |
| TheresaTheresa wrote: |
| St8ofTheArt wrote: |
| Black guy, no experience, no education degree, 2.5 mil first year, blue eyes my ass. |
Have to agree with you there, bud. |
Why doesn't this troll name his hagwon?
Or atleast help this guy out:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=200357
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How about you just ask me? CHUNG DAHM LEARNING, formerly Chung Dahm Institute. Anything else you need to say to justify calling me a toy with bright colored hair? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Was it an hourly CDI or a salaried CDI? |
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