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alljokingaside



Joined: 17 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: Impending Freeze Reply with quote

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/19/house-budget-cuts_n_825405.html

to the American folk out there.... who here's looking forward to going back home?

my grin is just getting grinnier by the grinnin' day.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Impending Freeze Reply with quote

alljokingaside wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/19/house-budget-cuts_n_825405.html

to the American folk out there.... who here's looking forward to going back home?

my grin is just getting grinnier by the grinnin' day.


Well the Senate isn't going to pass that. I am worried the government will shut down March 5th. It could get ugly.
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4 months left



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

$60 billion is just a drop in the bucket compared to the size of the deficit and unfunded liabilities.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For us Americans, it just continues to be increasingly more nonsense. We wouldn't be having all these money problems if our government had better fiscal policy like they do most other countries. Instead of laissez faire policy, we need fiscal policies covering everything from import tariffs to jobs to banking to accountability as to protect our interests. One has to only wonder what cutting $60 billion domestic spending between now and September will entail. Cutting domestic programs and government employee pay isn't the answer as our country is already only running on fumes left over from a bygone era when Detroit was an industrial powerhouse. The fact we are having all these critical fiscal and economic problems clearly demonstrates we have incompetent people running the country in both government and industry. We are talking about a large nation that had it made in the shade with every thing going for it where we all could had been set up nicely like they are in Norway and Denmark. Isn't it about time our incompetent outdated baby boomer administration stop resting on their laurels, curtail international spending, focus on the home front, and start being held more accountable?

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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
We are talking about a large nation that had it made in the shade with every thing going for it where we all could had been set up nicely like they are in Norway and Denmark. Isn't it about time our incompetent outdated baby boomer administration stop resting on their laurels, curtail international spending, focus on the home front, and start being held more accountable?


Norway in particular is a seriously apple to oranges comparison.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:
We are talking about a large nation that had it made in the shade with every thing going for it where we all could had been set up nicely like they are in Norway and Denmark. Isn't it about time our incompetent outdated baby boomer administration stop resting on their laurels, curtail international spending, focus on the home front, and start being held more accountable?


Norway in particular is a seriously apple to oranges comparison.


Agree. Politically and culturally Norway is an irrellevant comparison, but Norway shows how it's done right when you take a look at it. I'm saying they managed their country well to prosperity. Since the US had many competitive advantage and everything going for it, it too could had managed to stay domestically strong like Norway, but instead frittered the money on meaningless international pursuits in attempt to gain trade advantages. By the way, I enjoyed watching your movie, "The Troll Hunter."
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rollo



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than having a large ocean of oil and a small population what has Norway done that is special. Cant compare the U.s. to nations with small populations those under 100 million. Yeah it's amazing that most technological progress comes from the U.s. and that our Universities are the best in the world. Stock market is booming , companies ae investing and hiring again. other then the games in D.c. things look pretty bright.
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chellovek



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

USA! USA! USA!

We'll just ignore all the stuff done in other countries Wink
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
northway wrote:
AsiaESLbound wrote:
We are talking about a large nation that had it made in the shade with every thing going for it where we all could had been set up nicely like they are in Norway and Denmark. Isn't it about time our incompetent outdated baby boomer administration stop resting on their laurels, curtail international spending, focus on the home front, and start being held more accountable?


Norway in particular is a seriously apple to oranges comparison.


Agree. Politically and culturally Norway is an irrellevant comparison, but Norway shows how it's done right when you take a look at it. I'm saying they managed their country well to prosperity. Since the US had many competitive advantage and everything going for it, it too could had managed to stay domestically strong like Norway, but instead frittered the money on meaningless international pursuits in attempt to gain trade advantages. By the way, I enjoyed watching your movie, "The Troll Hunter."


The difference is that Norway will continue to everything going for it regardless of policy, considering they're number two in the world in natural gas exports and number nine in oil exports. That's some pretty serious insulation. With China and India continuing their growth, oil prices aren't going to plummet anytime soon.
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Sergio Stefanuto



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
number two in the world in natural gas exports and number nine in oil exports


Norway is actually the #9 producer, but the #3 exporter. I think it's still the #3 natural gas exporter, too.

Norway's Petroleum Fund is worth $500bn (over 100% of GDP)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11571650
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Norway
http://www.photius.com/rankings/economy/natural_gas_exports_2007_0.html


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northway



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
northway wrote:
number two in the world in natural gas exports and number nine in oil exports


Norway is actually the #9 producer, but the #3 exporter. I think it's still the #3 natural gas exporter, too.

Norway's Petroleum Fund is worth $500bn (over 100% of GDP)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11571650
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Norway
http://www.photius.com/rankings/economy/natural_gas_exports_2007_0.html


I was going by CIA Factbook.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/no.html
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rollo



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep them thar norwegians are smart putting their country on top of all that oil. How does this have anything to do with the U.s. or how you manage a country? Absolutely nothing.
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Republicans are just evil in the super villain sense of the word.

Defund the military. Problem fixed. Don't go after the friggin' EPA!
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMNC wrote:
Republicans are just evil in the super villain sense of the word.

Defund the military. Problem fixed. Don't go after the friggin' EPA!


I like how they were talking about defunding Teach for America when it only comes to like $35 million a year or some.
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johnnyenglishteacher2



Joined: 03 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rollo wrote:
Yeah it's amazing that most technological progress comes from the U.s. and that our Universities are the best in the world.


Sorry, but can't let this one stand. If you look at any objective measure, the UK has better per capita academic achievement than the USA - more Nobel Prizes, Wolf Prizes and Fields Medals, more universities in the top 10, 25 and 100 in the QS and THES world university rankings. Obviously we will never do as much as the USA, having a population 5 times smaller, but relatively speaking the UK punches well above its weight.
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