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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:54 pm Post subject: Korean Google: Semi-Censorship & Foreigner Discriminatio |
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Ok, this morning I was using Korean Google to search for information related to Charles Epp's book "Making Rights Real," when I noticed by my adult permissions were not on (i.e. I had to prove that I'm 19 years old or above). This is not something that I'm unfamiliar with so I pressed 인증 to prove my age. Now usually this simply asks that I log into my google account, which has my stated birth information. However, the new system (perhaps promoted by the Internet "crack down") requires that I also put in my 주민번호, which is something I've never seen on google before.
As you can imagine. It doesn't work for foreigners.
Now I'm not trying to start a stir, but I'm actually comfortable looking for several things in Korean and using the Korean version of Google. This privilege has clearly been stripped and I can only imagine what will happen now that my school/ research period has begun anew.
I've since (7 this morning) moved to using google.com instead of google.co.kr, but I'm still extremely pissed off.
Anyone else notice this absurdity!?  |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: In my Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Google is no longer your friend. |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009 Location: Ulsan
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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If you've been here for a reasonable amount of time you'll realize that Korean website (including those made by foreign companies sometimes) are garbage. Requiring your 주민번호, failing to authenticate a foreign one, etc. The amount of time I've wasted trying to get Korean sites working has got to be multiple percent of all my time in Korea.
For Google, google.com/ncr is the no country redirect. |
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Slowmotion
Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Korea's websites in general seem like one of the worst in the world amongst developed countries.
-A billion active X's programs to install
-Websites that don't even work in Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera etc
-Websites that won't work on smart phones
-Don't follow web standards
-Stupid registration system |
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tatertot

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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As Google is a US company, I don't think you can attribute this to (intentional) discrimination. For Google to operate in Korea, they need to follow Korean laws. Most foreigners using Google in Korea would not choose to use google.co.kr, so Google probably didn't think to implement user verification for non-Koreans. Chalk it up as an inconvenience, and use google.com instead. |
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Canonite
Joined: 01 Feb 2011
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Can you still use Google.com or other, non-Korean, varieties of it? (I as because in Canada, for example, you can't use Google.com - unless there's a way around it I don't know - ...you type in Google.com and it automatically re-routes you to Google.ca). |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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jonpurdy answered your question. Canon.
if you check the lower right side where it says 'Google.com in English' it takes you to google.com/ncr |
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Menino80

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Location: Hodor?
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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the failure of the korean sites to recognize foreign 민주번호 is most certainly discrimination. it's a matter of changing one number. a sh a sh. a sh sh shu shu 5000 dollar SUIT! COME on. |
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Canonite
Joined: 01 Feb 2011
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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ThingsComeAround wrote: |
jonpurdy answered your question. Canon.
if you check the lower right side where it says 'Google.com in English' it takes you to google.com/ncr |
oops...thanks...missed that somehow...good to know  |
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Jake_Kim
Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Which website is it?
Verification with KN ID number is required mostly when you're buying something, or accessing 'adult' materials, or trying to write something on certain online boards/forum. The book in question hardly seems to meet the criteria for a verification alert. |
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twilczynski
Joined: 22 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:22 am Post subject: |
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In case of google.co.kr you can use your name (written like this: SURNAMEGIVENNAME) and your registration number. |
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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twilczynski wrote: |
In case of google.co.kr you can use your name (written like this: SURNAMEGIVENNAME) and your registration number. |
No can do. My registered name has 20 letters and two spaces.
I've talked to the powers that be about this several times and they refuse to put me in the books with a shorter name (i.e. minus the middle one). So I'm basically screwed when it comes to identification verification unless the site allows for more than 22 letters.
In Korea, fat chance. ^^ |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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If this pisses you off, you know the bank security program you need to install? It's malware and has a script for blocking sites
I've got a really sensitive virus & spyware program. I paid 2 grand for my comp so I put that thing behind hoops of fire. The programst keeps telling me the blocklist attached to nprotect (Bank account access program) is conflicting with the script on the webpages or is trying to change information. |
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murmanjake

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I hate all that crapware u gotta install to access a bank acct here.
really grinds my gears... |
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