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10 Magazine hating on foreign teachers in Korea
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They closed off the comments section so it must have generated some negative comments.
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RyanInKorea



Joined: 17 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Livewire wrote:
written by a Kyopo male? Or at least illustrated by a kyopo male...?

Why are all the depictipns of esl teachers fat ugly women or thin pimply ugly males?

And several posters do no find that stereotyping offensive?

Now I fit none of those categories, but why did they have to represent esl teachers like that. Myself and most of my male friends at least are all decent looking guys who certainly aren't nerds.

I don't know, but why was that neccesary...?


I am pretty sure the illustrator used his real name. I worked with a guy named Pat Volz, who wanted to get into cartooning while in Korea. I am pretty sure it's him. One of the people in the illustrations may be a caricature of himself, if I remember correctly. I don't think it was intentionally malicious.

Why is the fat chick in the bottom left hand corner excited over the remote control? I don't get that reference. Is she going to eat it?
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyanInKorea wrote:


Why is the fat chick in the bottom left hand corner excited over the remote control? I don't get that reference. Is she going to eat it?


At first I thought it was a Wiimote and she was at a cafe, but then I saw the weird sound thing and I think she is taking a picture of herself in the style of SIFs and Korean girls on the bus.
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Livewire



Joined: 27 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

edwardcatflap wrote:
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written by a Kyopo male? Or at least illustrated by a kyopo male...?

Why are all the depictipns of esl teachers fat ugly women or thin pimply ugly males?

And several posters do no find that stereotyping offensive?

Now I fit none of those categories, but why did they have to represent esl teachers like that. Myself and most of my male friends at least are all decent looking guys who certainly aren't nerds.

I don't know, but why was that neccesary...?


Oh come on, it's a cartoon. Of course the characters are going to have exaggerated physical features. And what is a nerd exactly? isn't that the sort of terminology people grow out of after high school. A name they call the brainy kids at school who go on to do science at university and get all the well paid jobs?

I'm with Steelrails on this one, the guy should take his own advice. He's using the excuse that newbies always go on about the same old stuff to go on about the same old stuff. And it's as dull as it would be coming from a newbie.


really catflap. Then why didn't they have exaggeratedly cool features?

so as long as I exaggerate the features, I can draw cartoons of koreans in publications with flat faces, sloping foreheads, gnarly teeth, slanty eyes, hawking, spitting etc... without causing offense?

Oh cool!

Just so long as it is exaggerated.....
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rumdiary



Joined: 05 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Livewire wrote:
edwardcatflap wrote:
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written by a Kyopo male? Or at least illustrated by a kyopo male...?

Why are all the depictipns of esl teachers fat ugly women or thin pimply ugly males?

And several posters do no find that stereotyping offensive?

Now I fit none of those categories, but why did they have to represent esl teachers like that. Myself and most of my male friends at least are all decent looking guys who certainly aren't nerds.

I don't know, but why was that neccesary...?


Oh come on, it's a cartoon. Of course the characters are going to have exaggerated physical features. And what is a nerd exactly? isn't that the sort of terminology people grow out of after high school. A name they call the brainy kids at school who go on to do science at university and get all the well paid jobs?

I'm with Steelrails on this one, the guy should take his own advice. He's using the excuse that newbies always go on about the same old stuff to go on about the same old stuff. And it's as dull as it would be coming from a newbie.


really catflap. Then why didn't they have exaggeratedly cool features?

so as long as I exaggerate the features, I can draw cartoons of koreans in publications with flat faces, sloping foreheads, gnarly teeth, slanty eyes, hawking, spitting etc... without causing offense?

Oh cool!

Just so long as it is exaggerated.....
Isn't the slanty eyed, hunched back guy with the magnifying glass supposed to be Korean?
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complaining about people taking pictures of Konglish is pretty dumb.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 magazine is a new venture by Stephen Revere. Stephen is one hell of a guy. He learned Korean fleuntly and taught it on a show "let's speak korean" on Arirang TV. These shows are on youtube and I still use them to brush up my Korean.

Stephen's contributions on the show are wonderful. He gives clear explanation combined wih razor sharp wit to make these shows not just educational but entertaining.

That goes to show his motivation and intellect. He has a number of learning Korean books published. An amazing accomplishment. Now seemingly he is an entrepreneur as well.

There are very, very few foreigners that get my respect in Korea but Stephen Revere is one of them.
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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
10 magazine is a new venture by Stephen Revere. Stephen is one hell of a guy. He learned Korean fleuntly and taught it on a show "let's speak korean" on Arirang TV. These shows are on youtube and I still use them to brush up my Korean.

Stephen's contributions on the show are wonderful. He gives clear explanation combined wih razor sharp wit to make these shows not just educational but entertaining.

That goes to show his motivation and intellect. He has a number of learning Korean books published. An amazing accomplishment. Now seemingly he is an entrepreneur as well.

There are very, very few foreigners that get my respect in Korea but Stephen Revere is one of them.


I'm familiar with Stephen Revere. He obviously needs to edit his magazine in a professional manner. Maybe it was just a mistake on his part....I would hope so. Would hate to think he would give a crappy article like that a thumbs up.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basically what it states.. FOB -FYI

nothing hatred at all about it..
just a heads up...
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lorenchristopher



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
basically what it states.. FOB -FYI

nothing hatred at all about it..
just a heads up...


Right, heads up....you are a total cliche and every observation you make about Korea has been made before, so us other expats all roll our eyes at you.

Heads up, here is some condescending advice that provides no actually helpful information.

Another article by this literary genius can be found here:
http://www.10mag.com/2010/09/good-touch-bad-touch/
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you see the size of those Korean noses in the cartoon, and the geeky looking glasses? Very offensive

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Heads up, here is some condescending advice that provides no actually helpful information.


Actually it tells you how to grope women up on the subway and get away with it. Very useful
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daemyann



Joined: 09 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good read, if not a tad optimistic.

(The article, that it.)
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stephen's contributions on the show are wonderful. He gives clear explanation combined wih razor sharp wit to make these shows not just educational but entertaining.

2 minutes of watching him and I wanted to pound my head into the wall.
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
10 magazine is a new venture by Stephen Revere. Stephen is one hell of a guy. He learned Korean fleuntly and taught it on a show "let's speak korean" on Arirang TV. These shows are on youtube and I still use them to brush up my Korean.

Stephen's contributions on the show are wonderful. He gives clear explanation combined wih razor sharp wit to make these shows not just educational but entertaining.

That goes to show his motivation and intellect. He has a number of learning Korean books published. An amazing accomplishment. Now seemingly he is an entrepreneur as well.

There are very, very few foreigners that get my respect in Korea but Stephen Revere is one of them.


Stephen?
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happiness



Joined: 04 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a feeling that the old Stephen guy from Arirang who runs the magazine after quitting Arirang for the typical crap a K-company does to its employees (he told me) is getting frustrated with his lot here. Just my opinion...
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