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daisydew
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 Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:12 am Post subject: hagwon has my diploma hostage? |
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| my hagwon took my original diploma a week ago and hasn't given it back yet. said they had to 'register' it or do something. is this normal? i've had a few people tell me it's not.... |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: Re: hagwon has my diploma hostage? |
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| daisydew wrote: |
| my hagwon took my original diploma a week ago and hasn't given it back yet. said they had to 'register' it or do something. is this normal? i've had a few people tell me it's not.... |
Normal to use it (or a copy of it had you been smart enough to use one instead) = YES.
Are they likely to hold it hostage = also yes.
Wait a week then ask for it back. If they won't then put up a stink and quit teaching (sit at your desk) till you get it back.
Next time use a photocopy.
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daisydew
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| also forgot to mention i'm on an F4 visa so they had nothing to do with how i got here. |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Answer is still the same.
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daisydew
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:34 am Post subject: |
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the recruiter told me to take the original. while i was there i suggested making a copy (we were sitting next to a copy machine) and she said she needed the original.
what do they use it for? |
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OculisOrbis
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| They do need to register it at the ministry of education office, but it was not necessary to give them your original - a copy would have sufficed. The education office would have made a copy and returned the original immediately. Your employer should have the original and if they say they dont, they are lying. |
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daisydew
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| thanks for the response. i don't know if that makes me feel any better since i suggested while sitting there that we make a copy.... |
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emmahearst
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:13 am Post subject: Re: hagwon has my diploma hostage? |
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As a backup plan, go online, order a new degree/diploma from your school just in case. Some schools only take 1 week, while others take 4-6 weeks.
It's like $20-$50
| daisydew wrote: |
| my hagwon took my original diploma a week ago and hasn't given it back yet. said they had to 'register' it or do something. is this normal? i've had a few people tell me it's not.... |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Classic shady hagwon move. Never, ever give your original diploma to ANYONE. They will use it as ransom. |
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interestedinhanguk
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Five bucks says that it will be damaged if you get it back at all. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| My recruiter is also saying the same thing. That I need to bring the original with me when I get on the plan to Korea. Would I be able to just bring a copy instead? Or do I NEED the original? |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Bring it, but never let anyone put their hands on it. If they say it needs to go somewhere for something, say 'Sure, but I go with it or you can take a copy.' That also means YOU make the copy. IT NEVER LEAVES YOUR HANDS or there is a good chance you will never see it again. |
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smartwentcrazy
Joined: 26 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
| Bring it, but never let anyone put their hands on it. If they say it needs to go somewhere for something, say 'Sure, but I go with it or you can take a copy.' That also means YOU make the copy. IT NEVER LEAVES YOUR HANDS or there is a good chance you will never see it again. |
Agreed. I could care less what some scam-artist recruiter or hagwon owner says, you're not touching my diploma. You should treat your diploma like your passport. You wouldn't want that floating around in someone elses hands now would you? |
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fungrel
Joined: 26 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| interestedinhanguk wrote: |
| Five bucks says that it will be damaged if you get it back at all. |
Yep. Mine is practically useless now. |
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nw25th
Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Couple years ago I was getting ready to apply for a new job and suddenly couldn't figure out where my diploma was in my apartment. Searched every corner, and was almost convinced the ajuma cleaning lady had stolen it. Freaked out, and finally called my boss...conversation followed:
ME: Hey, do you guys have my diploma? I can't seem to find it.
BOSS: Yes.
ME: Oh great! I was scared it got stolen. Can you get that back to me?
BOSS: Why do you want it?
ME: Ummm, cause it's mine.
BOSS: But why do you want it, are you applying for a new job?
ME: Uh, it's mine, and I need it back...please drop it off today or tomorrow.
Some bosses like to think they own you...they shouldn't need it for anything more than a month...my first job out here I got it back with my ARC... |
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