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Britain's worst hour?
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fezmond



Joined: 27 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacksthirty wrote:
JINKS? You a Cwmbran lad? Me too. Whereabouts?

I remember Newport (the nearest city) was once the most dangerous place in Britain (no of violent incidents per square mile), it also had the highest heroin overdose in Britain, and one of the highest teenage pregnancy rates in the whole of Europe! It's reward? The Queen made it a city! That was almost ten years ago and I don't think it's changed in the slightest.

Very few Muslims in my hometown. If you want to see one you have to go and look for one!


whereabouts in cwmbran? i'm down the road in ponthir, know the area well enough.

ever do your time at burton's biscuits for a summer job?
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jacksthirty



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ. You're literally down the road from me. Llanfrechfa.
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murmanjake



Joined: 21 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwmbran and llanfrechfa

how are they pronounced? That "w" has got me stumped.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harlowethrombey wrote:
the british are ruining britain.


Right remember Edward I (Longshanks) talking about the Scots and Scotland. "The problem with Scotland is its all full of Scotts" (Cackling and laughter from the sorrounding nobles)
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacksthirty wrote:
JINKS? You a Cwmbran lad? Me too. Whereabouts?

Cwmbran's finest, from Coed Eva, but my dad's from Pontnewydd. Well spotted
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fezmond



Joined: 27 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

murmanjake wrote:
cwmbran and llanfrechfa

how are they pronounced? That "w" has got me stumped.


i've been sitting here for a while trying to explain how to pronouce either of these places without using the 'w' or 'll'. still can't figure it out..explaining welsh isn't easy
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

murmanjake wrote:
cwmbran and llanfrechfa

how are they pronounced? That "w" has got me stumped.


The W is like the "u" in 'put' (stress is on the 2nd syllable of Cwmbran)
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bish



Joined: 09 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very depressing (yet slightly funny) snapshot of life back home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjuNuqIev8M
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoBW wrote:
The "yob culture" that is now so widespread in Britain is one of the main reasons I left. Not long after, my parents also left and headed to sunnier (and more civilised) shores. Next year, my brother is transferring from the Royal Navy to the Royal Australian Navy, and taking his wife and 3 kids with him.


mises wrote:
I last visited the UK about 5 years ago. I promised myself never to go back, even just passing through the horrible airport. It felt like a society collapsing into itself, with the muslims, the drunkenness, the cameras, the thought control. Crap place.



I don't know the UK that well. But from my limited and removed perspective, they need more religion. Say what you will about Evangelicals in the States (I'll agree with most of it), but their religious ties and observance really brings their communities together.

There are other ways to do it, perhaps. But the UK seems to have a host of problems.

Koveras wrote:
This is the mass nihilism Nietzsche prophesied. The problem isn't the Labour Party, or even the lack of family unity, the problem is all of modernity.


I don't know. There are plenty of pockets of tradition and the past all over the Western world. But I suppose the UK would be the most 'modern.'

I had a very cool British roommate in Beijing who I told that American English is closer to the English once spoken in Great Britain than today's British English (before it was the UK). He nodded and said proudly, "Well, that's because we're more ahead." The reason I tell this story is because his comment brought Nietzsche to mind. Why should we blindly prefer everything about modernity, or even worse, "progress" or just bland "change"?

The modern world is humongous, and there are more pockets of Renaissance/Classical thought today than there were in the past, if you go by pure numbers. Just look at all the Great Books or classical liberal arts colleges tucked away in many states throughout the US. I mean, it would be terribly modern of us to reject entirely the "O brave new world! That has such people in it!" Even if there are only a few million classicists or traditionalists or what have you, it should be more than enough to populate thousands of communities.
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Koveras



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, I've calmed down considerably since then. Besides, the dream is of a sacred civilization, not a community of four-eyed 'classicists'. Rest assured that we aren't sitting on our hands.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koveras wrote:
the dream is of a sacred civilization, not a community of four-eyed 'classicists'


Thanks for reminding me how irritating jocks can be. BTW, I'm with Nietzsche. Greek pantheon > Christian mythology. Although I'll also take the Norse (I'm pragmatic).
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Koveras wrote:
the dream is of a sacred civilization, not a community of four-eyed 'classicists'


Thanks for reminding me how irritating jocks can be. BTW, I'm with Nietzsche. Greek pantheon > Christian mythology. Although I'll also take the Norse (I'm pragmatic).


You fit perfectly with the New Right. Have you investigated that?
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Koveras



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Koveras wrote:
the dream is of a sacred civilization, not a community of four-eyed 'classicists'


Thanks for reminding me how irritating jocks can be. BTW, I'm with Nietzsche. Greek pantheon > Christian mythology. Although I'll also take the Norse (I'm pragmatic).


You're so sensitive. Honest question, do you actually *believe* in Zeus or Odin?
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koveras wrote:
Kuros wrote:
Koveras wrote:
the dream is of a sacred civilization, not a community of four-eyed 'classicists'


Thanks for reminding me how irritating jocks can be. BTW, I'm with Nietzsche. Greek pantheon > Christian mythology. Although I'll also take the Norse (I'm pragmatic).


You're so sensitive. Honest question, do you actually *believe* in Zeus or Odin?


No, of course not. But my belief is not required.
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catman



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Countries in western Europe have highers rates of atheism but lower rates of crime.

Maybe returning to faith might help but a lack of faith cannot be blamed.
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