Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Whitening products + caucasian skin
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Not to mention the moral issues I have with the existence of such products.

As for the way Korean girls dress: in general, Koreans don't seem that well-dressed to me. At first I thought it was just my city, but I haven't really seen many well-dressed people in Seoul either. Despite what some guys seem to think, Korean girls don't strike me as more attractive or better dressed than anyone else. Some of these guys just have issues, with themselves and with women lol. They are very often the last guy a sane girl would look twice at and yet they somehow feel entitled to judge women on their appearance. To the left, to the left...


What moral issues?

I have to disagree and say that people in Seoul dress a lot smarter than people back home. I'm not a guy with issues. I just have an opinion on what i see. I've dated Korean and foreign girls while i've lived in Korea so i disprove your final statements too.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jfromtheway



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember walking around lost in Chiang Mai late at night and turning a corner to find about fifteen sparkly-dressed working girls arranged on stools staring right at me, their faces white as the moon with that whitening cream. The first word that came to mind was "spooky," the second was "jackpot." Kidding, they started screaming at me to come in and I quickly walked away, but I still can't seem to shed that Thai white-face dollhouse of ill repute image.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Michaela



Joined: 21 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
Quote:
Not to mention the moral issues I have with the existence of such products.

As for the way Korean girls dress: in general, Koreans don't seem that well-dressed to me. At first I thought it was just my city, but I haven't really seen many well-dressed people in Seoul either. Despite what some guys seem to think, Korean girls don't strike me as more attractive or better dressed than anyone else. Some of these guys just have issues, with themselves and with women lol. They are very often the last guy a sane girl would look twice at and yet they somehow feel entitled to judge women on their appearance. To the left, to the left...


What moral issues?

I have to disagree and say that people in Seoul dress a lot smarter than people back home. I'm not a guy with issues. I just have an opinion on what i see. I've dated Korean and foreign girls while i've lived in Korea so i disprove your final statements too.


Moral issues? Someone whitening their skin in an effort to be considered more beautiful is something that makes a lot of people uncomfortable. I feel the same way about plastic surgery and some people's obsession with tanning. None of it seems quite right to me, but that's just me.

I never said you had issues - I said some of these judgemental guys have issues. Most of the North American girls I know aren't anything like the way some guys make them out to be. I think the way they are sometimes stereotyped and put down is disrespectful and often says more about the person making the comments than about the girls. I don't know where some guys get off speaking about women that way.

I don't have a problem with how people dress in Seoul, but I don't think they dress better than in most other big cities around the world.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Moral issues? Someone whitening their skin in an effort to be considered more beautiful is something that makes a lot of people uncomfortable. I feel the same way about plastic surgery and some people's obsession with tanning. None of it seems quite right to me, but that's just me.


Then where do you draw the line? Is wearing make up all right. Is dying your hair?

Quote:
I said some of these judgemental guys have issues. Most of the North American girls I know aren't anything like the way some guys make them out to be. I think the way they are sometimes stereotyped and put down is disrespectful and often says more about the person making the comments than about the girls. I don't know where some guys get off speaking about women that way.


Seems to me you are just as judgmental as the guys you are referring to.
Pot, meet kettle.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Michaela



Joined: 21 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
Quote:
Moral issues? Someone whitening their skin in an effort to be considered more beautiful is something that makes a lot of people uncomfortable. I feel the same way about plastic surgery and some people's obsession with tanning. None of it seems quite right to me, but that's just me.


Then where do you draw the line? Is wearing make up all right. Is dying your hair?

Quote:
I said some of these judgemental guys have issues. Most of the North American girls I know aren't anything like the way some guys make them out to be. I think the way they are sometimes stereotyped and put down is disrespectful and often says more about the person making the comments than about the girls. I don't know where some guys get off speaking about women that way.


Seems to me you are just as judgmental as the guys you are referring to.
Pot, meet kettle.


Yeah, there is a line. Make-up and dye can be washed off. More permanent measures can't and come with much bigger potential health issues. To each his own. I just question the social norms that lead to people making these decisions.

I'm actually not a judgemental person at all, but I don't allow myself to be disrespected and if that makes me judgemental in your eyes, then so be it. However, what does that make you for calling me judgemental? Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
However, what does that make you for calling me judgemental?


It makes me observant. Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Michaela



Joined: 21 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure you are Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
Location: James Joyce's pants

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend explained it to me like this: it actually doesn't whiten your skin, per se, but the chemicals in the products act to speed up the melatonin cells....For example, if you get a tan, then put that cream on, it would quicken the turnover time where the healthy cells would regenerate, thus turning your skin lighter. Does that make sense? So if you just keep on adding and adding it, it will quickly turn over the cells, or possibly prevent them from getting "tan," or something like that. I was told it's not legal here to sell products with, say, bleach, to make your skin literally whiter, but I'm sure that doesn't stop companies from doing it...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JeffersonDarcy2010



Joined: 05 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulman69 wrote:
Quote:
Not to mention the moral issues I have with the existence of such products.

As for the way Korean girls dress: in general, Koreans don't seem that well-dressed to me. At first I thought it was just my city, but I haven't really seen many well-dressed people in Seoul either. Despite what some guys seem to think, Korean girls don't strike me as more attractive or better dressed than anyone else. Some of these guys just have issues, with themselves and with women lol. They are very often the last guy a sane girl would look twice at and yet they somehow feel entitled to judge women on their appearance. To the left, to the left...


What moral issues?

I have to disagree and say that people in Seoul dress a lot smarter than people back home. I'm not a guy with issues. I just have an opinion on what i see. I've dated Korean and foreign girls while i've lived in Korea so i disprove your final statements too.


You take the best dressed American girls and the best dressed Korean girls - Koreans will be so far behind that no one will even notice they are there. (In my opinion and all other foreigners I personally know here think the same).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Seoulman69



Joined: 14 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:17 am    Post subject: