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[Carbon]

[crescent]

Ow! Another half-wit jab! So are we to expect that this type of reply, and a fetish for all things apple is all you have ?

[Captain Corea]

[SeoulNate]

The same could be said for anything that people argue about: sports, religion, love etc.

We argue because it gives us something to do and, for some of us, we would like to change the misconceptions out there.

Personally, I will argue against apple every single time simply because of their price point on computers. It is a fact that the internal components are exactly the same on any mac computer as they are on any big name PC manufacturer. However, mac fan-boys will somehow dispute this fact to the death. If you bought a Mac, the simple fact is that you probably paid 500-1200$ for a shiny case. If you really like macOS, buy it and install on another computer, you will save yourself a crap ton of money.

I have no problem saying that apple makes a nice OS. They really do, and if that is your cup of tea, then choose whatever makes you happy. Windows and MacOS both have their strong points.

I do have a problem when people defend mac as a superior computer based on no evidence whatsoever. The only evidence they bring up is for macOS, not the actual build of the computer.

I would just like to have a few mac owners really come out and say why they spent such a large amount of money on their shiny new tech, because A) they knew nothing about computers and having a mac was 'cool' or B) to show it off at the coffee shop.

[Chokse]

I'll answer your question. I love the Mac OS. It's pretty much that simple. It is a pleasure to use and I find it very intuitive. I feel nothing but stress when I am on Windows.

I am willing to pay money for that kind of stress-free life. I'm not paying for shiny cases or glowing apples. I'm paying for a smooth, classy, modern, and intuitive OS.

Now, you can hate me for that or call me a fan boy for that, and that's fine, I don't care. If you look at my post history, I have always stated that the reason I use a Mac is because of the software, not the hardware, and I that I have enough money to spend on things that make my life easier and more stress free. It's why I also pay $200 for Dropbox. It's also the reason I have been paying $100 a year for MobileMe. It's a lot of money, but it makes my life so much easier. I don't mind spending money on things that just work and make my already busy life a little less difficult.

And as usual, rather than accept that argument, Windows users come back and criticize that all I care about is the shiny case. They can't seem to understand that it's all about the OS.

Now, I know you'll say that I could just buy a PC and put the Mac OS on it, but it is not that simple. Doing this can bring all sorts of headaches when you need to change hardware or when new system updates are released. I want easy and stress free. I don't want downtime because a new update screwed everything up. And, most importantly, I am willing to pay a premium for this.

I would have much less of a dislike for Windows users if they would simply accept the fact that most Mac users are not using a Mac because it is shiny. That's a ridiculous argument. They are using a Mac because they find the OS to be superior, and they have enough common sense to realize that buying something that is cheap does not necessarily make it better. I know lots of people like Windows, and that's fine. And if they can get a cheap computer and be happy with it, that's fine. I also know (personally) lots of people using Windows who are frustrated as hell most of the time because things don't always work as they should. I, and many other Mac users, wish to avoid this. There are certain inherent advantages to having the same company make the hardware and software.

[SeoulNate]

Are you serious? Did you even bother to read what I wrote?

[SeoulNate]

[Chokse]

No company makes its own hardware. You know that. Don't be daft. Apple chooses which hardware to use and therefore, the OS works with it correctly. Windows makes an OS that is supposed to work with everything, but for obvious reasons, cannot. Why should I have to tolerate that?

It's the same reason we're not seeing large numbers of big-name apps on Android. There are too many different Android devices using different hardware and screen sizes. It becomes too difficult for developers to make something that works for everyone. One of the reasons big-name developers like iOS is because the hardware is limited and they can make apps that work correctly for all devices. Don't believe me? Google it and read the interviews with developers. They have been very clear about this.

I really don't see how you are not getting this. I don't care that the hardware costs more. I'm buying a solid product with a solid OS. It is an OS that allows me to do my work and make money, all without having to deal with crap. I can type twice as fast on an Apple Keyboard than I can on Windows keyboards. By and large, PC keyboards have a horrible tactile feel and response. I can't use trackpad gestures with most PCs, and even when I can, they are limited at best. I get things done much faster when working on the Mac (and yes, we have two PCs in the house so I am familiar and I have used them, much as I hate it).

This all goes back to the same argument people never understood about the original iPod. Everyone always argued that you could get cheaper and better hardware from another company. Yet, the iPod became the most popular mass storage MP3 player in the world. Why? It wasn't because of the hardware. It was because of the software and the user experience.

So, roll on the floor all you need. I understand that for you, funds are limited and you probably can't afford furniture to roll around on.

[denverdeath]

one other thing that should be noted, which no one has as of yet, is that a PC does not always equal M$ either...you can put other OSs on a PC no problem.

But, back to the seemingly PHONE argument here...I have an iPhone. It's good, except for the apparently faulty hardware - blasted homekey ain't working well these days and I've only had it for about six months! Yes, the OS is fine, and I'm relatively happy with it...not much more happy than I was with the LG phone I had prior to this one though. And, I'm sure that I would be saying the same if I had an S2 in my hand...well, maybe not. When my contract is up in 1.5 yrs, I'm sure I'll either have a Galaxy S10 or an iPhone 10 in my hand anyway.