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Porksta



Joined: 05 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Different Dress Codes for M/F? Reply with quote

I just had a question regarding my school's newly implemented dress code. Men can no longer wear jeans and must wear a nice shirt (collared or the like). This is no problem for me as that is what I figured the dress code would be like but it turned out to be more lax and I started occasionally wearing jeans.

However, my female coworker is allowed to continue dressing like a *beep*. Maybe *beep* is too strong a word, but she doesn't dress professionally (in the US sense) or close to it. I think yesterday she wore pants for the first time, usually she wears shorts. Some times she wears a low cut dress, other times some backless and sleeveless top. Yet apparently that is okay. The Korean workers tend to dress a bit more conservatively, but not her. We have a seminar tomorrow for the parent's and us men were told to wear a suit and tie. Guess what? She is fine the way she is.

What gives? Is this a Korean thing where men are held to higher standards? I have started growing a beard because she's allowed to have a tongue and nose stud, I'm gonna be pissed off (more so) if they tell me I have to shave and she is okay the way she is.
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Different Dress Codes for M/F? Reply with quote

Porksta wrote:
I just had a question regarding my school's newly implemented dress code. Men can no longer wear jeans and must wear a nice shirt (collared or the like). This is no problem for me as that is what I figured the dress code would be like but it turned out to be more lax and I started occasionally wearing jeans.

However, my female coworker is allowed to continue dressing like a *beep*. Maybe *beep* is too strong a word, but she doesn't dress professionally (in the US sense) or close to it. I think yesterday she wore pants for the first time, usually she wears shorts. Some times she wears a low cut dress, other times some backless and sleeveless top. Yet apparently that is okay. The Korean workers tend to dress a bit more conservatively, but not her. We have a seminar tomorrow for the parent's and us men were told to wear a suit and tie. Guess what? She is fine the way she is.

What gives? Is this a Korean thing where men are held to higher standards? I have started growing a beard because she's allowed to have a tongue and nose stud, I'm gonna be pissed off (more so) if they tell me I have to shave and she is okay the way she is.


I'm not sure I quite understand this post. You're complaining? Confused
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Porksta



Joined: 05 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She's not attractive. Even if she was, it is principle. She has not once dressed better than me, and now I am required to dress even better?
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Joshea8



Joined: 24 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my school male employees can't wear shorts. Women can. To quote my boss, "Women are allowed to wear shorts to keep them beautiful."
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the place have AC? I would just wear whatever you want to the school. Change in the bathroom, and then change back. You took the job and the location is probably well within the city "limits".

I had a hagwon job through a school in Gangnam. The owner always wore these silver suits, flashy maybe to some. It definitely looked way beyond the needs of a hagwon owner. However, he would always question me if I shaved and that my shirt needed to be cleaner.

However, another teacher, good friend and still (nothing wrong with him), he would come in with long uncut hair, half a beard grown, shorts showing off his hairy legs, and sandals sporting a surfer look. Only thing missing was a surfboard. Actually, he was more of a rugby fella, but looked more like a surfer. The hagwon owner said nothing to him.

Apparently, I was the business person and he was the cool beach dude.

Each person has to play their part to attract as many students. Your female co-worker is doing her part and you need to do yours.
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Porksta



Joined: 05 May 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatimes wrote:

Each person has to play their part to attract as many students. Your female co-worker is doing her part and you need to do yours.


So then is this customary in Korea to require more of the men? At least in the USA, if I am paying for my kid to learn a foreign language and their teacher was dressed like her I would turn around and find a different school.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porksta wrote:
koreatimes wrote:

Each person has to play their part to attract as many students. Your female co-worker is doing her part and you need to do yours.


So then is this customary in Korea to require more of the men? At least in the USA, if I am paying for my kid to learn a foreign language and their teacher was dressed like her I would turn around and find a different school.


I don't know what she looks like. Why are you so concerned about this? I don't see their requests that much out of line as it pertains to you.

As for jeans, usually hagwons don't like this. I don't see why you are complaining.

If you truly think she has some "advantage" because she wears clothing you might think is more on par with jeans or less, then I would shut up and not say anything. Wear your dress pants for like 4 weeks. Then, after payday, break out the jeans. If questioned, make your statement, "If she can wear those clothes I should be able to wear these.", They'll say, "You can't". Come back with dress pants. Try again 5 weeks later.

It could also mean your students are more business minded and not of the "college" variety. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Porksta



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to reiterate - I have no problems with the dress code. Switching from jeans to slacks is not a hard thing to do. What annoys me is that the female teacher does not have to change. She gets to continue to dress like a student instead of dressing like a teacher.
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess what?
Sometimes life isn't fair. I'm sorry you had to find out this way. Rolling Eyes
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Porksta



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is why I asked in my original post if it was Korean custom or just something my boss decided.
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litebear



Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Holland

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porksta wrote:
She's not attractive. Even if she was, it is principle. She has not once dressed better than me, and now I am required to dress even better?


In that case my advice is to break into her apartment, replace all her clothes with yours, take her clothes back to your place and show up to work the next day wearing the most provocative item she owns. Burst into your boss's office and scream "LOOK AT ME, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK"

He'll be f*ckin delighted when you show up next week in jeans and a T.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you teaching adults?

My guess is that the boss thinks that some of the male students will like the way she dresses (or doesn't dress depending on your point of view).

The boss might be into older women, who knows?
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