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Old fat expat
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rainism
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if I were an overseas marketer, I'd use the optional title in almost every foreign country.
Why would S. Koreans or anyone else care or be interested in a superhero named 'Captain America'??? . unless they were intimately familiar with and liked the comicbook hero, and I'd bet most are NOT familiar with him. |
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Old fat expat
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, fair enough-
But only three overseas marketers made that choice. Why the difference? What would be the reasons for the Korean marketers to make that choice? |
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Nolan Ryan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| The change in the title doesn't surprise me! Just read the yahoo article and you'll find a plethora of anti-Korean sentiment for it! |
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rainism
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Old fat expat wrote: |
Yeah, fair enough-
But only three overseas marketers made that choice. Why the difference? What would be the reasons for the Korean marketers to make that choice? |
because they're smart and they want to make money. Your target audience will be Korean teenagers/youth. They're not anti American, but why would they be interested in a superhero called Capt. America?
now if you named him Capt Korea, then you might be on to something!  |
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nukeday
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| The title has changed...what do they call him in the movie (or subtitles?) First Avenger? |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| nukeday wrote: |
| The title has changed...what do they call him in the movie (or subtitles?) First Avenger? |
I'm guessing that the only thing that changes is the movie title. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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At least its getting released here. Somehow I doubt it's being released in say, Pakistan.
That being said, Hollywood is as guilty as anyone for these kind of antics.
The Mexican, starring Brad Pitt.
The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise.
Amistad, starring Matthew McCounaghy
Glory, starring Matthew Broderick
Notice anything about those? |
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nukeday
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
At least its getting released here. Somehow I doubt it's being released in say, Pakistan.
That being said, Hollywood is as guilty as anyone for these kind of antics.
The Mexican, starring Brad Pitt.
The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise.
Amistad, starring Matthew McCounaghy
Glory, starring Matthew Broderick
Notice anything about those? |
How is this related? Is Korea making the movie Captain America and casting a Korean as the leading man? |
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ThingsComeAround
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
At least its getting released here. Somehow I doubt it's being released in say, Pakistan.
That being said, Hollywood is as guilty as anyone for these kind of antics.
The Mexican, starring Brad Pitt.
The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise.
Amistad, starring Matthew McCounaghy
Glory, starring Matthew Broderick
Notice anything about those? |
somewhat OT but lol  |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
At least its getting released here. Somehow I doubt it's being released in say, Pakistan.
That being said, Hollywood is as guilty as anyone for these kind of antics.
The Mexican, starring Brad Pitt.
The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise.
Amistad, starring Matthew McCounaghy
Glory, starring Matthew Broderick
Notice anything about those? |
Are you trying to tie in the fact that Hollywood does what it thinks its audience wants?
If not, I'm confused as to how this exactly relates to the OP. |
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Steelrails
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Do I really have to connect the dots between the Captain America name-change thing and what's going on with those movies? |
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rainism
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Do I really have to connect the dots between the Captain America name-change thing and what's going on with those movies? |
having whitey American as the protagonist/hero?
I'd actually take issue with some of your examples.
in Last Samurai.. it's simply a story told from Western eyes.. I believed Cruise's character is based on a real life person during those times. You could also argue that the Japanese samurai leader is just as much the protagonist/hero as Cruise, if not more so.
Same with Glory. First, they're being historically consistent since the officer of that regiment was almost assuredly white. Second, you can argue that Denzel is just as much the main hero/protagonist in that movie as Broderick if not more so. |
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Konglishman
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
At least its getting released here. Somehow I doubt it's being released in say, Pakistan.
That being said, Hollywood is as guilty as anyone for these kind of antics.
The Mexican, starring Brad Pitt.
The Last Samurai, starring Tom Cruise.
Amistad, starring Matthew McCounaghy
Glory, starring Matthew Broderick
Notice anything about those? |
Further, I don't consider Matthew McCounaghy the star of Amistad. Clearly, Djimon Hounsou is the primary star of that movie. |
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shifter2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| rainism wrote: |
| Steelrails wrote: |
| Do I really have to connect the dots between the Captain America name-change thing and what's going on with those movies? |
having whitey American as the protagonist/hero?
I'd actually take issue with some of your examples.
in Last Samurai.. it's simply a story told from Western eyes.. I believed Cruise's character is based on a real life person during those times. You could also argue that the Japanese samurai leader is just as much the protagonist/hero as Cruise, if not more so.
Same with Glory. First, they're being historically consistent since the officer of that regiment was almost assuredly white. Second, you can argue that Denzel is just as much the main hero/protagonist in that movie as Broderick if not more so. |
My problem with the Last Samurai was that in 6 months Tom Cruise was on par with these other Samurais who dedicated their lives to it. |
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