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Moondoggy

Joined: 07 Jun 2011

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:58 am Post subject:

Ruby Thursday wrote:

Moondoggy wrote:

As for the ESL industry in Korea things changed. Recently a lot of people come to Korea to teach English because they are genuinely interested in Korea.

Where did you get this from exactly? Ariyang TV?
From almost anyone I've ever talked to this isn't even close to being true. The influx of ESL teachers is mainly due to the disaster in Japan (their 1st choice but fear pushed them to look for alternatives) and competitive salaries.

Still, in 2011, its rare for me to meet someone in my home country who knows ANYTHING about Korea other than the fact they eat dogs. Truth.

It's called "ignorance". Don't generalize everyone in your home country... it's just you and your family. And you're absolutely right that most Koreans eat dogs like 3 times a day.

Again S. Korea has recently become a popular destination for teaching English and a lot of folks come here because they like Korea and her culture.

Last edited by Moondoggy on Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:05 am; edited 1 time in total

marsavalanche

Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:03 am Post subject:

Moondoggy wrote:

Ruby Thursday wrote:

Moondoggy wrote:

As for the ESL industry in Korea things changed. Recently a lot of people come to Korea to teach English because they are genuinely interested in Korea.

It's called "ignorance". Right most Koreans eat dogs like 3 times a day.

Again S. Korea has recently become a popular destination for teaching English and a lot of folks come here because they like Korea and her culture.

WRONG. People come here because the economy in their home country sucks and it's a good way to make money. Zero, zip, zilch, NADA foreigners have told me they left their home country for ajummas elbowing them in the side, kimchi breath at 9 in the morning, and having the wrestle their hagwon owners for money owed to them.

You're really delusional about Korea. You're probably one of those dudes who walks around his neighborhood in a hanbuk singing K-pop.

mfao @ the guy that said Korea is a hidden "gem" waiting to be discovered?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Moondoggy

Joined: 07 Jun 2011

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:09 am Post subject:

^ whatever pleases your sad soul. But that's not the case any more. if you leave korea now your position will be quickly taken by a young female.

marsavalanche

Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:42 am Post subject:

Moondoggy wrote:

^ whatever pleases your sad soul. But that's not the case any more. if you leave korea now your position will be quickly taken by a young female.

You're over a year late with that line. Yet here I am in Seoul with another gig making bank, relaxing in my spacious apartment with a beer and my beautiful girlfriend, getting a kick out of Dave's in my free time.

If that's a sad soul, then excuse me while I wipe my tears of joy with a tissue

lol

Ruby Thursday

Joined: 29 Jun 2011

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:07 am Post subject:

Moondoggy wrote:

Ruby Thursday wrote:

Moondoggy wrote:

As for the ESL industry in Korea things changed. Recently a lot of people come to Korea to teach English because they are genuinely interested in Korea.

Jesus. Ok, you are quite clearly Kor-American or someone with some significant percentage of han in his/her blood. You are completely blinded by your nationalistic pride.

When it comes to tourism Korea is at the bottom of the barrel. You do know this right? This is far more telling that people coming here to work in the ESL industry.

Tourists want beautiful scenery and beaches -- Thailand, Malaysia and Philippines

Unique Asian culture -- China

Dynamic modern city -- Tokyo

Amazing mouth watering food -- anywhere but Korea

Sorry to burst your little bubble but Korea is strictly utilitarian. Anyone flocking here is doing so for a paycheck and nothing besides. Those who say they are here for the culture and "dynamic" lifestyle would quickly change their tune (and residence) if every Asian country offered what Korea offers to unqualified "teachers." This place would be a ghost town.

But keep on watching Arirang for your world news.

madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:28 am Post subject:

Ruby Thursday wrote:

Jesus. Ok, you are quite clearly Kor-American or someone with some significant percentage of han in his/her blood. You are completely blinded by your nationalistic pride.

Sorry to burst your little bubble but Korea is strictly utilitarian. Anyone flocking here is doing so for a paycheck and nothing besides.

So how much han is in this girl's blood?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3O_XZV_CA&NR=1&feature=fvwp

While it may blow your mind, there are hundreds of people doing similar introductions and practicing Korean, because they are interested in Korean culture and want to come here for the experiences.

Hell, you can also check out all the kids dancing and singing to kpop on youtube. Go to soompi.com and see how many non-Koreans hang out there simply to talk about Korean culture.

korea87

Joined: 28 Feb 2010

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:30 pm Post subject:

madoka wrote:

Ruby Thursday wrote:

for eveyr one of these there are ten for Japan, China other countries in America or South American countries . Hundreds is nothing is nothing compared to the thousands or millions that other countries get. I think some you people are stuck in this Korean bubble. I am sorry but before coming to Korea I knew very little about this country esp. Kpop, the sites found in Korea, and anything cultural. And that goes to most people that I know. Some people actually feared for my life because of N.Korea. Korea does a good job of having people think that the world knows of Korea while in Korea but seriously that is a different matter in the real world.

allovertheplace

Joined: 02 Aug 2009

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject:

From what I heard, loads of folks came over to teach during the World Cup and left briefly after. I wonder if the same will happen in 2018.

Ruby Thursday

Joined: 29 Jun 2011

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:03 pm Post subject:

korea87 wrote:

madoka wrote:

Ruby Thursday wrote:

Yep.

One need only look at that Rain world tour a few years back. Koreans predicted it would be on par with the Michael Jackson 'Dangerous' world tour. After a couple shows to a half packed hall full of ONLY koreans and a smattering of Asians (and maybe a dozen or so girls like the youtube girl above) it was canceled.

Korea is a weak blip on the radar no matter how much you delusional freaks like to think otherwise.

madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject:

korea87 wrote:

Your point being? Please show me where I stated that Korea was more popular than China or Japan?

Ruby Thursday stated that NO one comes to Korea for Korea. I proved him wrong. Simple enough for you? Please be a dear and read the thread next time before you post. Thanks.

Ramen

Joined: 15 Apr 2008

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:08 pm Post subject:

i came here for the cultural reason. but now i am here because koreans are begging me to stay. i guess i 'm too good looking to let go.

PatrickGHBusan

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:13 pm Post subject:

korea87 wrote:

madoka wrote:

Ruby Thursday wrote:

How is any of what you said relevant to what Madoka was saying?

Good lord...he did not claim Korea was more popular than Japan or China....classic case of you not reading what he was responding to and assuming.

Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:19 pm Post subject:

I find it funny to read blanket statements about why ppl come here to teach. It's been my experience that ppl come here for a variety of reasons.

PatrickGHBusan

Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject:

Captain Corea wrote:

I find it funny to read blanket statements about why ppl come here to teach.

It's been my experience that ppl come here for a variety of reasons.

Captain that is too complicated for Daves ESL my friend!

It HAS to be black and white here....

korea87

Joined: 28 Feb 2010

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject:

madoka wrote:

korea87 wrote:

I am sorry you are right. I think my main point is better suited for moondogs comment. But it seemed lik you supported his argument. But I guess I was wrong. But i still stand by my comment. I think its desperate when people look for the comparatively few people that really care about Korea. It doesn't show me or most people that come to Really care about this country. It just shows people are still drawing on straws. But I do think many people that come to Korea try to make the most of their time. And It has very little to do with the Korean culture. I think that's what stands out the most to me living here compared to other countries. How most of the people especially the young ones get their excitement from doing things here that you can do back home. Like partying, adventure trips, book clubs, volunteering and etc. Really, how is this different from living back home? The only thing that I can see is the money. I think that is why I can never buy most people's I love or I like Korea because when I ask most of them the reasons and what they do for fun. Nothing really stands out culturally. I don't regret coming to Korea, but I can see that I was playing it safe . I still think most people but not all of them are doing the same. And for those who say that most people from Western countries know about Korea. I have to see it to believe it. Y'all are drinking some serious kool-aid right now.

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