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Is Sabotage a reality?
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Bruce W Sims



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Illinois; USA

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

litebear wrote:
Bruce W Sims wrote:
litebear wrote:
Hope you don't mind me asking Bruce, how is the document gathering/job search going? Any further forward. (If you feel this is too far off-topic, just say so, no problem.)


No....its very much coming down to a wait and see sort of situation. I was thrown a curve the other day when someone reported that Poly is asking for two copies of the applicant's degree instead of the usual one. Up until then I was pretty well fixed for everything.

The responses are likewise pretty much wait and see. C'est Bon.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


You need two apostilled degrees for a Poly now? I never knew that. You have everything else though by the sounds of things which is good.


Yeah...apparently....

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=208415

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Damn.... I just Embarassed knew Embarassed that was not going to come across right. Sorry about that. Embarassed

I was hoping to draw a parallel between past experiences and the present. I think this is going to be one of those comments where the more I say the worse its gonna get, so I think I'll leave well enough alone, yes? FWIW, it came from a good place. As far as "Racism" or Racist" goes.... I've found that intelligent people can talk about Race and Cultures without being restained or bound by a fixed set of beliefs.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


Fair enough -- if I had a nickel for every time I said something that gave the wrong impression, I would be far closer to retirement...which is why I try harder nowadays to consider the response to the words I choose. I am sure that you do, too...we all slip up occasionally.

Cheers.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Damn.... I just Embarassed knew Embarassed that was not going to come across right. Sorry about that. Embarassed

I was hoping to draw a parallel between past experiences and the present. I think this is going to be one of those comments where the more I say the worse its gonna get, so I think I'll leave well enough alone, yes? FWIW, it came from a good place. As far as "Racism" or Racist" goes.... I've found that intelligent people can talk about Race and Cultures without being restained or bound by a fixed set of beliefs.

Best Wishes,

Bruce

Why apologize? According to what you wrote, you only addressed a possible parallel in certain cultural behaviors, of which not all are positive or even based on race. Some tend to use the "R" word out of context.
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Bruce W Sims



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you mean.

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Bruce
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my 20 won.

At a school or any organization you get treated depending on your own actions,

When I came to the school I didn't really have a clue what I was doing, at that time it was embarrassing, and I would have done everything in my power to get rid of me if I was them... let's say it like it is I was completely shit.


after 20 weeks I was OK at what I was doing, they warmed to me a little

1.5 years down the line, I run everything in my class and I am still learning but improving and out of my 5 co teachers I am ranked number 3 most just sit in the back of the class and relax.... and look to me for discipline, and oh yes Mr sticky did come out. Now my co-teachers ranked 4-5 come here on for their own end of year classes to have a 'listening class' AKA watching a film in my room, they sit in the back and do their own paper work. So if you were good at your job and made their life easy......... It makes no sense for them to sabotage anything, regardless of nationality, or your assumptions.

Bottom line, in schools there is a social status 'thing' going on, if your co teacher is above you, understand one thing... you jump through the hoops like a nice doggy.. no matter if your skin is black white yellow or orange.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malislamusrex wrote:
At a school or any organization you get treated depending on your own actions,


Unless you're at a school that routinely screws its teachers, which is why you do your footwork to assure that you're not.
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Malislamusrex



Joined: 01 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the first few months things weren't all peaches and cream.

northway wrote:
Malislamusrex wrote:
At a school or any organization you get treated depending on your own actions,


Unless you're at a school that routinely screws its teachers, which is why you do your footwork to assure that you're not.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malislamusrex wrote:
For the first few months things weren't all peaches and cream.

northway wrote:
Malislamusrex wrote:
At a school or any organization you get treated depending on your own actions,


Unless you're at a school that routinely screws its teachers, which is why you do your footwork to assure that you're not.


For sure, and I've had similar experiences, but there are plenty of hagwons that will burn you regardless of how good you are. To tell a newbie anything else would be bad advice.
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