Korean Job Discussion Forums

[Real Reality]

phaedrus,
Actually, some Korean workers do get housing (Single or married housing is provided by some companies). Some Korean workers receive travel reimbursement. Some Korean workers receive payment for trips abroad.
Consider the conditions at LG:
Incentives
-- An incentive system is operated where up to 100 million won is paid for superior performance.
-- Project Refresh leave system: In order to recharge project members who have achieved superior results, leave accompany members' families plus leave expenses are granted.
Working conditions: A flexible time system, annual and monthly leave, 1st and 3rd week Saturday leave, and lunch and supper are provided.
Welfare: Individual medical expenses are supported; commuter bus service; compensation paid for congratulatory and/or condolence occasions; housing fund financing; school tuition support for middle school, high school, and college; general medical checkup; use of rest facilities; and other welfare systems.
http://www.lg.co.kr/eutility/otherSites.jsp

Derrek,
How long have you been in that position? Are you on a tenure track? Does your university or school offer tenure to foreigners?
from the EFL-Law-Guy: "Recently we have become aware of 5 cases of employees (teachers) who have worked for 4 or more years, with the same employer, NOT being renewed. (4 years, 2 x 7 years, 8 years, 13 years,). It has also become known the Ministry has sent a directive to schools, universities, etc, that teachers with Long service should not be re-employed. Those who have been told to date include University teachers, College teachers and some Epik teachers. It is a cynical attempt to prevent foreigners from getting tenure."
http://www.koreabridge.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3343

If I have a doctorate, do you think that matters?
E-1 Visa (Professor)
The Object of Visa Issuance
This category applies to foreigners who, as qualified individuals specified by the Educational Law, wish to instruct special fields of study or engage in the guidance of research at junior colleges or higher educational institutions, or the institutions corresponding to such levels. In the case of a national or a public University, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor.
http://www.moj.go.kr/immi/08_english/02_business/e_1.html

[phaedrus]

[Corporal]

This thread reeks of BS.

[Real Reality]

Corporal wrote,
This thread reeks of BS.

Which post reeks? What information reeks?

[Mr. Pink]

[procall]

[Real Reality]

Which industry or job sector does teaching belong in?

1. Management, business, and financial
2. Professional and Related
3. Service
4. Sales
5. Office and Administrative Support
6. Farming and Related
7. Construction
8. Installation and Related
9. Production
10. Transportation

Teachers are usually classified under "Professional and Related."
http://www.bls.gov/oco/oco1002.htm

Major Group 41
PROFESSIONAL OCCUPATIONS IN SOCIAL SCIENCE, EDUCATION, GOVERNMENT SERVICES AND RELIGION
http://www23.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/2001/e/groups/4.shtml

What is the level of salary and "incentives" offered to people in this sector?

[Mr. Pink]

Professional and RELATED doesn't mean teachers fall under "executive" type jobs. Or jobs based on performance.

You still didn't answer if you have a doctorate or not.

You still don't understand the difference between performance based jobs and teaching.

CRAP teachers still keep their jobs. People in the corporate world who are expected to perform and don't - they tend to LOSE their jobs.

Are YOU qualified to teach in your home country Real Reality?

If YES, why are you in Korea and CONTINUALLY complaining about how Koreans in certain sectors, with certain education make more?

Am I the only one who sees your one sided arguments?

Am I the only one who is tired of reading the SAME and I mean SAME arguments AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN?

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[Mr. Pink]

[phaedrus]

[bundangbear]

I'm making right around 3.04 at one hagwon job. I teach 22 hours a week, but I'm also now writing articles for use throughout our hagwon chain. These are simple, not-time-consuming articles. I write them at home, at my leisure, about 10 or so a month.

As far as expericece, I have an MFA in Creative writing, I was a teaching assistant for 4 years of grad school, and I've taught 2 years in Japan.

Also, housing is covered. This, I know, is rarely the case in Uni positions.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[Mr. Pink]

What is interesting is this:

RR states that foreigners:

a) work more hours than their Korean counterparts
b) never get tenure
c) get paid less
d) don't get bonuses


Let's look at the situation of SESSIONAL LECTURERS at Canadian Universities:

a) work more hours than tenured profs.
b) almost never get tenure, as they don't stay long enough (10-15yrs is needed min.)
c) get paid less
d) don't get bonuses.

What's the difference? Seems the same to me. Also Sessional Lecturers DONT need PhDs. Foreigners in Korea DONT need PhDs.

Again RR brings this up time and time again. I have decided i've had enough of it. Want to bring it on? I can argue this subject all day...or until the mods decide enough is enough.

[Toby]

Bachelor Of Education
CELTA
3 Years in Korean Schools, now in fourth.
Now working 39 hours a week
Round about the 3.8 mark.

Could do with less hours, but then I would only be bored at home. Spend more time on dave's though!