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tyrobinson



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Getting a masters while teaching. Reply with quote

Has anyone ever gone to graduate school while teaching? Can both be done at he same time? It seems like I have heard/read about there maybe being visa issue with teaching and going to school simultaneously.
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're on an F visa, it's not an issue at all. If you're on an E visa, you simply need to get permission from immigration. The school I went to required some official form from immigration to complete the application / registration program, but from what I understand, it's quite simple.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Getting a masters while teaching. Reply with quote

tyrobinson wrote:
Has anyone ever gone to graduate school while teaching? Can both be done at he same time? It seems like I have heard/read about there maybe being visa issue with teaching and going to school simultaneously.


Doing it at a Korean brick & mortar = get permission from Kimmi for an addition to your permitted activities under your status of sojourn.

Doing it by distance = not a visa issue.

Being able to do it (time commitment issues) while working full time is another matter.

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whiteshoes



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused Canadian wrote:
If you're on an F visa, it's not an issue at all. If you're on an E visa, you simply need to get permission from immigration. The school I went to required some official form from immigration to complete the application / registration program, but from what I understand, it's quite simple.


Yup, me too. I have to fill out some forms in Korean every semester, but I am able to work and study at the same time. Thus far, ZERO problems.
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Gorf



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone care to say where they're getting their MA from, in what, and how hard it is?
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is finished. Just waiting on the paper from the school.
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Chet Wautlands



Joined: 11 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Mine is finished. Just waiting on the paper from the school.


What school did you go through?
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Bruce W Sims



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Illinois; USA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: Getting a masters while teaching. Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
tyrobinson wrote:
Has anyone ever gone to graduate school while teaching? Can both be done at he same time? It seems like I have heard/read about there maybe being visa issue with teaching and going to school simultaneously.


Doing it at a Korean brick & mortar = get permission from Kimmi for an addition to your permitted activities under your status of sojourn.

Doing it by distance = not a visa issue. Being able to do it (time commitment issues) while working full time is another matter.

.


Agreed. I, too, had been thinking about using my time in Korea to continue my Education. My own solution had been to use the On-line service of a University. The issue I am finding is that potential employers are stipulating that higher education include attending a given number of hours at a b&m School and not just on-line.

Since some employers mention having, say, Korean Language classes available for minimal or not fee, I knew there must be a loophole somewhere.

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:58 am    Post subject: Re: Getting a masters while teaching. Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
The issue I am finding is that potential employers are stipulating that higher education include attending a given number of hours at a b&m School and not just on-line.


Links? Proof?

I call bull.
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definitely maybe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be up your alley:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=209172
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definitely maybe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gorf wrote:
Anyone care to say where they're getting their MA from, in what, and how hard it is?


Check my post above. The second cohort is nearly finished. There are times when the work is easy and other times when it seems endless. I can tell you that there is a ton of pre-course work to make up for the short period of time the classes are squeezed into, the sessions are intensive (80 hours for two classes over ten days), and there is quite a bit of writing and presenting. I've yet to hear anyone from the first or second cohort complain that it wasn't worth though. Same goes for the MEd in International Education up at Seoul Foreign School, although that one requires a valid teaching certificate.
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Bruce W Sims



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Location: Illinois; USA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Getting a masters while teaching. Reply with quote

Swampfox10mm wrote:
Bruce W Sims wrote:
The issue I am finding is that potential employers are stipulating that higher education include attending a given number of hours at a b&m School and not just on-line.


Links? Proof?

I call bull.


There are waaay too many to list, but I can suggest that you review the postings for the Persian Gulf countries, Europe and South America. Since this is a Korean forum, I can also suggest that you take a look at the postings for Uni-s and the more reputable chains. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce
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Swampfox10mm



Joined: 24 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:14 am    Post subject: Re: Getting a masters while teaching. Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Swampfox10mm wrote:
Bruce W Sims wrote:
The issue I am finding is that potential employers are stipulating that higher education include attending a given number of hours at a b&m School and not just on-line.


Links? Proof?

I call bull.


There are waaay too many to list, but I can suggest that you review the postings for the Persian Gulf countries, Europe and South America. Since this is a Korean forum, I can also suggest that you take a look at the postings for Uni-s and the more reputable chains. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce



Yeah, whatever.

Persian Gulf? South America? Europe? "More reputable chains" in Korea? Give me a break!

Let me guess. They're the same employers that sell the CELTA, right?

Go look it up for yourself.... that's about what I expected from someone blowing smoke out of their political behind.

Best wishes,
Swamp


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definitely maybe



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: Getting a masters while teaching. Reply with quote

Bruce W Sims wrote:
Swampfox10mm wrote:
Bruce W Sims wrote:
The issue I am finding is that potential employers are stipulating that higher education include attending a given number of hours at a b&m School and not just on-line.


Links? Proof?

I call bull.


There are waaay too many to list, but I can suggest that you review the postings for the Persian Gulf countries, Europe and South America. Since this is a Korean forum, I can also suggest that you take a look at the postings for Uni-s and the more reputable chains. FWIW.

Best Wishes,

Bruce


Swampfox was working for a university in central Seoul, which makes it more reputable in Korea simply based on the default theory that Seoul is better, before he started his masters work.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair swamp, Bruce has a point.

Online education is still viewed with reservation by some employers, especially for graduate degrees.

This is often a misconception because online education is pretty darn amazing these days.

Still, it still has a ways to go to convince some sections of the employment field.

I know for a FACT that the University I worked for in Busan is reluctant when faced with a candidate with a MA earned online via distance Ed. This is slowly changing however.
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