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Hagwon rules toughened for foreign instructors
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Hagwon rules toughened for foreign instructors Reply with quote

By Kim Tae-jong
08-16-2011

Operators of hagwon, or private learning institute, should check the criminal background, health and drug-test results and academic records of foreign applicants to be English instructors in recruitment from October, the education ministry said Tuesday.

They are also required to check applicants� visa, passport and certificate of foreign registration, as part of efforts to eliminate unqualified English teachers working here, the ministry added.

The mandatory procedure is part of the revised Hagwon Law, which was passed at the National Assembly on July 25.

When the new law comes into effect, those who want to work here as a foreign English teacher should submit their criminal background and academic certificates and medical report in advance to apply for an E2 visa, and they also have to submit them to the operators of hagwon they want to work for.

The education ministry said the new measure is to resolve the widespread uneasiness over the credibility of foreign English teachers and properly screen out unqualified teachers.
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isisaredead



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, i just read this in the paper (literally, just then - i'm at work), and i thought i'd come here to see if anyone can tell me what it means.

because as far as i can tell, it means absolutely nothing. apart from the medical check, don't we do all this already? i sent all my documents to my boss, each time i've worked at a hagwon, and they've checked them over before handing them to immigration. all my documents are the responsibility of immigration, not my boss. if i check the boxes with immigration, i already check the bosses with my hagwon.

right?

again, apart from this weird new rule wanting us to submit a medical check IN ADVANCE, i can't see how anything is actually different.

can someone tell me i'm stupid, please? did i miss something?
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northway



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like business as usual to me.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idiots! While you're worried about the unqualified foreign teachers try going after the bad Hogwans as well (You know ................. the ones that your ministry surely hears about at least occasionally, that have teachers spend thier money to fly over to South Korea only to be cheated and mistreated).
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koreatimes



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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again, apart from this weird new rule wanting us to submit a medical check IN ADVANCE, i can't see how anything is actually different.


My guess is that a lot hagwon owners are playing dumb about the requirements, especially the criminal background check. This might simply be a way to make it "official", and it probably isn't directed towards the teachers.
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Tamada



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's get all of the Korean teachers/hagwan owners checked out for their fake qualifications also.

Consistency puuuurrrrrlease. Wink
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Savant



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if you are a Kyopo gangster wanting to flee to Korea then we welcome you with open arms.
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ttompatz



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Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: Hagwon rules toughened for foreign instructors Reply with quote

World Traveler wrote:
By Kim Tae-jong
08-16-2011

Operators of hagwon, or private learning institute, should check the criminal background, health and drug-test results and academic records of foreign applicants to be English instructors in recruitment from October, the education ministry said Tuesday.

They are also required to check applicants� visa, passport and certificate of foreign registration, as part of efforts to eliminate unqualified English teachers working here, the ministry added.

The mandatory procedure is part of the revised Hagwon Law, which was passed at the National Assembly on July 25.

When the new law comes into effect, those who want to work here as a foreign English teacher should submit their criminal background and academic certificates and medical report in advance to apply for an E2 visa, and they also have to submit them to the operators of hagwon they want to work for.

The education ministry said the new measure is to resolve the widespread uneasiness over the credibility of foreign English teachers and properly screen out unqualified teachers.


The new rules are identical to the ones imposed by immigration for E2s. It is nothing more than PR for the MOE but now adds the onus on the employer to maintain proof (for no other reason than PR).

Must be an election coming in the next year...

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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But now you'll need 2 copies of everything, one for immi and one for work.

EEEEEyyyyyeeewwww.


Glad I left.
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isisaredead



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatimes wrote:
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again, apart from this weird new rule wanting us to submit a medical check IN ADVANCE, i can't see how anything is actually different.


My guess is that a lot hagwon owners are playing dumb about the requirements, especially the criminal background check. This might simply be a way to make it "official", and it probably isn't directed towards the teachers.


thanks to you and ttompatz for clearing this up.
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Reggie



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
But now you'll need 2 copies of everything, one for immi and one for work.

EEEEEyyyyyeeewwww.


Glad I left.


I have to say that I've been very surprised at how time consuming the paperwork has been this time compared to the previous time I got an E-2 visa.
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Juregen



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
Looks like business as usual to me.


Not if you are running a hagwon.
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northway



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
northway wrote:
Looks like business as usual to me.


Not if you are running a hagwon.


If I were, what would my response be, "How dare they me put some of the onus of abiding by the law on me?"
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murmanjake



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: Hagwon rules toughened for foreign instructors Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
World Traveler wrote:
By Kim Tae-jong
08-16-2011

Operators of hagwon, or private learning institute, should check the criminal background, health and drug-test results and academic records of foreign applicants to be English instructors in recruitment from October, the education ministry said Tuesday.

They are also required to check applicants� visa, passport and certificate of foreign registration, as part of efforts to eliminate unqualified English teachers working here, the ministry added.

The mandatory procedure is part of the revised Hagwon Law, which was passed at the National Assembly on July 25.

When the new law comes into effect, those who want to work here as a foreign English teacher should submit their criminal background and academic certificates and medical report in advance to apply for an E2 visa, and they also have to submit them to the operators of hagwon they want to work for.

The education ministry said the new measure is to resolve the widespread uneasiness over the credibility of foreign English teachers and properly screen out unqualified teachers.


The new rules are identical to the ones imposed by immigration for E2s. It is nothing more than PR for the MOE but now adds the onus on the employer to maintain proof (for no other reason than PR).

Must be an election coming in the next year...

.


The way I read it seemed like it could be aimed at F-visa holders, though how they'd get those checks on such short notice baffles me.
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big_fella1



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is aimed at F visa holders, but as it doesn't apply to Korean citizens seems a bit r.....
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