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Warhammer820



Joined: 03 Jun 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:23 pm    Post subject: How flooded is the market? Reply with quote

I see a lot of people have too wait for their jobs to be available. How flooded is the market? Is it just the big cities that are hard to get jobs in? I have told some others that I would prefer a rural city over Seoul and Busan. I will get my Education degree in May. Do y'all think that if I ask for a rural location, the recruiters would be able to find a hagwon job for me around August or Spetember? I am more interested in a job over the location.
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Zackback



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Kyungbuk

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's bursting.
Lots of patience and determination might get you something in Seoul. Everywhere else not as hard...no cake walk though.
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Warhammer820



Joined: 03 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zackback wrote:
It's bursting.
Lots of patience and determination might get you something in Seoul. Everywhere else not as hard...no cake walk though.


I'm not even going to try Seoul. I'm just going to try any other city than that. I will get my Education degree in May. Hopefully some hagwon will accept me somewhere in a rural city or something.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're getting a degree in education, I'm assuming you'll be certified? If so, you should have significantly more options if you're willing to go the hagwon route.
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Warhammer820



Joined: 03 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

northway wrote:
If you're getting a degree in education, I'm assuming you'll be certified? If so, you should have significantly more options if you're willing to go the hagwon route.


I already passed my certification tests in Physical Education for Louisiana. So they will become active as soon as I receive my diploma in May 2012. I just have student teaching January-May and then I'm done Smile
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Kennyftw



Joined: 08 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why wouldn't you test the US job market before coming to Korea? You will be getting your degree at the prime hiring season for teachers.
Anyway, I have a teaching license, too, and it doesn't really give a leg up on all of the basket weaving degree holders here. You have a 4 year degree, good--that's all they care about.
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Warhammer820



Joined: 03 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kennyftw wrote:
Why wouldn't you test the US job market before coming to Korea? You will be getting your degree at the prime hiring season for teachers.
Anyway, I have a teaching license, too, and it doesn't really give a leg up on all of the basket weaving degree holders here. You have a 4 year degree, good--that's all they care about.


Well, I'm not sure if I want to pursue a career in ESL. Right now I just think this seems like a great experience. I already have experience with kids in America, now I want to try teaching Asian kids. Also, if I find a job in America, it would be silly to leave that teaching position to teach ESL when I could have done it fresh out of school. I do plan on teaching in a different country no matter what. Korea just seems nice to me since I already toured around Thailand and Japan seems to be nearly impossible.
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isitts



Joined: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warhammer820 wrote:
Kennyftw wrote:
Why wouldn't you test the US job market before coming to Korea? You will be getting your degree at the prime hiring season for teachers.
Anyway, I have a teaching license, too, and it doesn't really give a leg up on all of the basket weaving degree holders here. You have a 4 year degree, good--that's all they care about.


Well, I'm not sure if I want to pursue a career in ESL. Right now I just think this seems like a great experience. I already have experience with kids in America, now I want to try teaching Asian kids. Also, if I find a job in America, it would be silly to leave that teaching position to teach ESL when I could have done it fresh out of school. I do plan on teaching in a different country no matter what. Korea just seems nice to me since I already toured around Thailand and Japan seems to be nearly impossible.


On the other hand, if you put in a few years in the States, you'd have experience under your belt and could then apply overseas to work at an international school.
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FastForward



Joined: 04 Jul 2011

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just signed a contract yesterday and can tell you the market seemed pretty flooded, with not that many jobs being sent my way. I did have interviews and contracts, so getting a job was possible, but it was hard to land the right contract in my opinion. If you are looking for a medium size city and it doesn't have to be close to a big city, then you should be okay. I wanted to be somewhere that had a subway line that ran through the city or a subway line that connected to Seoul. If you are okay with learning the bus routes and riding the bus(which isn't bad at all) then you should be good.
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Warhammer820



Joined: 03 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank all of you for your responses. Should I apply for a CBC before I apply? Also, can I apply a couple weeks before I graduate, or do I have to show my diploma right when I apply?
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FastForward



Joined: 04 Jul 2011

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warhammer820 wrote:
Thank all of you for your responses. Should I apply for a CBC before I apply? Also, can I apply a couple weeks before I graduate, or do I have to show my diploma right when I apply?


Just make sure you plan for the lengthy time it takes for your CBC to come back. I would probably start applying when all my documents are ready, so you don't burn all your recruiters up. In my experience, after a while your recruiters stop contacting you and fade away. My experience can vary from yours, because I didn't have to get a CBC or health check. My visa was much easier to obtain.
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what this is worth, the hiring manager for our chain (60+ schools) says he has ZERO trouble finding a teacher, and gestured with his hands that he has a foot-long pile of resumes to choose from.

He says his preference is always to hire those who come recommended by a teacher he knows is solid.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a question. Why do they want to live and get a job in Korea? I dont understand totally.. because the money is not good compared with U.S. (also exchange rate.) (I know almost agency offer them housing and round airticket.....) hm..is it good condition??
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Warhammer820



Joined: 03 Jun 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbybigfoot wrote:
For what this is worth, the hiring manager for our chain (60+ schools) says he has ZERO trouble finding a teacher, and gestured with his hands that he has a foot-long pile of resumes to choose from.

He says his preference is always to hire those who come recommended by a teacher he knows is solid.


Is it because those applicants chose larger cities like Seoul? I want a smaller city.
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warhammer820 wrote:

Is it because those applicants chose larger cities like Seoul? I want a smaller city.


He didn't specify, but yeah, the bulk of the schools are in more populated areas.

Head to the sticks and your chances for landing a job increase.
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