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Signing new contracts and working on Saturdays

 
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dartimos



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: Signing new contracts and working on Saturdays Reply with quote

If an employer asks you to sign a new contract before the old one expires, how does the labor board normally look on these practices?

Second, related question: Is an employer required to pay overtime for any work on Saturday? How about on a manditory 6-day week?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as the contracts go it is fine UNLESS there are some shenanigans going on like fiddling with the starting and ending dates. Assuming that this is not the case then as long as you have extended your visa with immigration and submitted a copy of the contract it should be fine.

As for the Saturday work...it depends on your contract. If you signed a contract wherein you agreed to work for a certain wage Mon-Sat then no the employer is not obligated to pay for any overtime.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you sign another contract with the same employer, immigration pretty much doesn't care. I transferred to many other schools during my time in Korea, and they never blinked an eye. I even signed on for one school, and then went with a third. Immigration ignored the second school and processed it as a change from the first to the third.

So, I am pretty sure you have nothing to worry about.

As for Saturdays, that's all in the contract. Typically, hagwons will want weekends, public schools will never have you work then.

Count your classes if you want overtime. I average it out to 25 classes for 45 minute classes. Get the schedule you want, 2 days off and 3 if you can negotiate that (4 busier days).
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dartimos



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I foresee a possible 6-day week or "must work Saturday" change to the contract. The option may be a "sign or be fired."
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dartimos wrote:
I foresee a possible 6-day week or "must work Saturday" change to the contract. The option may be a "sign or be fired."


I'd ask for more money in that case. Someone who wants to increase your days without paying more...it's not worth keeping the job IMO.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like he's "altered the deal". Pray he does not alter it further:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwF7n8WyOoU

Seriously, trying to coerce you into signing a new and unfavorable contract is something the Labor Board doesn't take kindly to. I worked for a school who tried to pull something like this, and one phone call from the Labor Board put the kibosh on it.
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dartimos



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still waiting for the unicycle. ^^

Thanks for the help guys. Any other suggestions would be awesome. I'm in a corporate hogwon, so I don't know how much negotiating room I have. But, the "not worth keeping" is sounding very wise least they want to alter the deal once more.
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munybse



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance this is an Avalon school?
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dartimos



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm under 25 posts. Munybse, if you can, PM me.
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lebenketten



Joined: 10 Mar 2011
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

munybse wrote:
Any chance this is an Avalon school?


I wondered the same thing, as this sounds like what my school is trying to pull.
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dartimos



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lebenketten, drop me a PM.
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lebenketten



Joined: 10 Mar 2011
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dartimos wrote:
Lebenketten, drop me a PM.


I haven't posted 25 times yet :/ How else can we get hold of one another..
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dartimos



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drop an @yahoo.com at the end of my alias and ship me an e-mail.
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