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What can be taught on the E2 visa?
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3twentyseven



Joined: 29 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:20 pm    Post subject: What can be taught on the E2 visa? Reply with quote

I know very little about this details and exceptions for this teaching business. It will be my first time coming to Korea.
I have been communicating with a private international school (that seems to be very SAT testing friendly upon looking at their website). I am expecting a job offer within a few days. However I realized that there may be an issue that could use some clarification for me.

They are wanting me to teach English (using subject material related to art) 50% of the time and do art instruction the other half of the time.

I am assuming that they would be sponsoring me for an E-2 visa. (I have not clarified with them on this issue, so that may prove to be important)

Would this teaching situation be legal? If a class is taught in English does that constitute as English instruction or must the class be strictly English language (pronunciation, grammar, etc.) instruction? Is there another visa that might be sponsoring me on as opposed to an E-2?

I am obviously not going to be taking the job if that proves to be the case, and I'm very glad to have thought to ask before I've accepted something that might get me deported once there.

Please advise, ask questions, etc.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much anything, so long as the class is in English. If you're teaching art in English, you are teaching English.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:02 am    Post subject: Re: What can be taught on the E2 visa? Reply with quote

3twentyseven wrote:
I know very little about this details and exceptions for this teaching business. It will be my first time coming to Korea.
I have been communicating with a private international school (that seems to be very SAT testing friendly upon looking at their website). I am expecting a job offer within a few days. However I realized that there may be an issue that could use some clarification for me.

They are wanting me to teach English (using subject material related to art) 50% of the time and do art instruction the other half of the time.

I am assuming that they would be sponsoring me for an E-2 visa. (I have not clarified with them on this issue, so that may prove to be important)

Would this teaching situation be legal? If a class is taught in English does that constitute as English instruction or must the class be strictly English language (pronunciation, grammar, etc.) instruction? Is there another visa that might be sponsoring me on as opposed to an E-2?

I am obviously not going to be taking the job if that proves to be the case, and I'm very glad to have thought to ask before I've accepted something that might get me deported once there.

Please advise, ask questions, etc.


It also depends on their license/registration.

E2 = teacher of a foreign language
E7 = specialist (including real teachers - as compared to language teachers).
E1 = visiting professor.

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3twentyseven



Joined: 29 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: What can be taught on the E2 visa? Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:


It also depends on their license/registration.

E2 = teacher of a foreign language
E7 = specialist (including real teachers - as compared to language teachers).
E1 = visiting professor.



What questions can I ask to be sure that I would be teaching legally?
Does the process and documents needed differ for the E7 or E1?
Am I stressing over this too much?

(Do I ask too many questions? Rolling Eyes )
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am pretty sure you aren't applying for a professor job, you would be doing either E2 or E7. In that case, the issue would be pay, and if you feel you are more of a "specialist" and going to teach more art than English, you should try to get an E7 I think. That seems like it would be the higher paying job.

However, if you are new to the teaching world, you might just want to start with an E2 and see how it goes. If you are bored with the curriculum and you want something more, look around at other schools and try to get the E7.

I found that whatever your first job is, it's just a stepping stone to something better later on. So, don't worry about it. Apply, come, and move on.
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Skill



Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is quite interesting. How much English can be taught in an art lesson. You need to get very creative. I am sure you can come up with something with your artistic skill.

I am planning to do my year in Korea. Come back home, get my PGCE and teach science abroad. I haven't decided where.
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northway



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skill wrote:
That is quite interesting. How much English can be taught in an art lesson. You need to get very creative. I am sure you can come up with something with your artistic skill.

I am planning to do my year in Korea. Come back home, get my PGCE and teach science abroad. I haven't decided where.


With low level students it's really easy to make an art class English oriented. If they're really low you can focus on following directions, if they're a bit higher level you can discuss various works of art, teach them about different coloring schemes and the concept of balance, etc. If they're fifth year immersion kids it's a bit more difficult, but it's really a lot easier to structure a good lesson around art than one might think.
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3twentyseven



Joined: 29 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just received a sample contract.
Please review it over in the contract review thread.




Quote:
You need to get very creative.


Isn't that what artistic types do best? I can apply creativity to things other than visual art. Very Happy
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Skill



Joined: 06 Jul 2011
Location: London

PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3twentyseven wrote:
I just received a sample contract.
Please review it over in the contract review thread.




Quote:
You need to get very creative.


Isn't that what artistic types do best? I can apply creativity to things other than visual art. Very Happy


Then, you are sorted.
You better keep us upto date and supply some of your creative lesson plans.
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Hotpants



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