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Swampfox10mm
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 Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject: Pearson Korea employee murdered in Indonesia? |
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I just heard terrible news. There is an article that Sam Lee From Pearson, who was the go-to guy for the Northstar series, was murdered in Indonesia. Anyone have the link??
Terrible thing. NICEST guy. Recently married. |
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Swampfox10mm
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Juregen
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Indeed a tragic situation. |
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Swampfox10mm
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| So, what exactly did happen? Any reason given? Was the guy who did it caught? I always thaught many Aisan countries had a kind of no foriegner attack rule. Kind of where the penalties are much harder for attacks on foriegners. (Not to say something can't happen if you're up to no good, though.) |
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hwa jang shil
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| That's awful. This lovely man handled orientation for me while at YBM, he came and observed classes after 2 months and gave such great advice that I still use 4 years later. He'll be much missed. |
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Swampfox10mm
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if we know many details yet, but I did hear from a Cambridge employee that was apparently at his funeral was today. Even though they are from different companies, these people know each other pretty well from interactions at events and such.
Pearson will seriously be hurting after this if they haven't trained anyone else to help people in the local market with the Northstar software. At the time we worked with him, Sam was the 1-man-band local-guru know-it-all about the online side of the Northstar series. And that's saying a lot, as it has an extremely steep learning curve for the typical teacher. While we worked with Pearson, it was obvious that nobody else understood how to run it, and without Sam, they'd be clueless and having to call corporate for help. That was some time ago, though. The poor guy was stretched EXTREMELY thin, but I never remember him complaining about that. He was a total workhorse.
I feel so sorry for his wife. They just married recently. |
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definitely maybe
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| He was a great guy. I helped train him when he first arrived, and it wasn't long before he was trying to recruit me to work with on his team over at YBM head office. He was always right in the middle of things, and I'm sure he'll be missed everywhere anyone knew him. |
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hogwonguy1979
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:26 am Post subject: |
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wife had met him a number of times through her employment at a competing company, he was in town for KOTESOL and presented there. She and her office are devasted by it. He was just transferred to Pearson's HK office from what my wife told me. My wife had been down in Indonesia on business in June and she didnt feel safe there. I was happy she had the local rep with her at all times
Apparently he took some sort of local transit without the local rep with him when it occurred.
Really, really sad. Now I hope my wife doesnt have to go there anytime soon. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| I never met the guy. However, it seems like he was a great man. Losing a person like him is very hard. Perhaps, someone wanted to rob him and, then, kill him. Foreigners in some poor areas of any place in the world can be vulnerable to those who want to harm them. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| My friend went to the funeral and heard that he was killed because some random nutcase, who hated Chinese people, thought he was Chinese. Sounds crazy and very sad. Apparently there are some in Indonesia who really hate Chinese people? |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| So, what exactly did happen? Any reason given? Was the guy who did it caught? I always thaught many Aisan countries had a kind of no foriegner attack rule. Kind of where the penalties are much harder for attacks on foriegners. (Not to say something can't happen if you're up to no good, though.) |
Are you kidding me? Not in SE Asia. Maybe in Thailand and Malaysia as bad as they are, the two shining stars in SE Asia. Just recently people were dying at Chiang Mai Inn for unknown reasons and it took many months for the police to even think there was something wrong with people dying at the same motel under the same circumstances. An individual from Saudi Arabia came to Thailand to investigate a jewel theft (lots of money) and was murdered. The police are still dragging their heels over that, who knows they might be involved.
In Indonesia the police aren't just crooked, THEY ARE the criminals. |
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RangerMcGreggor
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Swampfox10mm wrote: |
| My friend went to the funeral and heard that he was killed because some random nutcase, who hated Chinese people, thought he was Chinese. Sounds crazy and very sad. Apparently there are some in Indonesia who really hate Chinese people? |
Chinese have historically been discriminated against in Indonesia. I heard horror stories of crimes against them during the 98 riots. |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| So, what exactly did happen? Any reason given? Was the guy who did it caught? I always thaught many Aisan countries had a kind of no foriegner attack rule. Kind of where the penalties are much harder for attacks on foriegners. (Not to say something can't happen if you're up to no good, though.) |
Are you kidding me? Not in SE Asia. Maybe in Thailand and Malaysia as bad as they are, the two shining stars in SE Asia. Just recently people were dying at Chiang Mai Inn for unknown reasons and it took many months for the police to even think there was something wrong with people dying at the same motel under the same circumstances. An individual from Saudi Arabia came to Thailand to investigate a jewel theft (lots of money) and was murdered. The police are still dragging their heels over that, who knows they might be involved.
In Indonesia the police aren't just crooked, THEY ARE the criminals. |
SE asia very different from NE asia (Pacific region). Got it. Mostly safe up there (here). Guess if I ever go, I'll stay in a regular hotel and either try to stay in a safe area or make sure my combat skills are up to par. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| young_clinton wrote: |
| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| So, what exactly did happen? Any reason given? Was the guy who did it caught? I always thaught many Aisan countries had a kind of no foriegner attack rule. Kind of where the penalties are much harder for attacks on foriegners. (Not to say something can't happen if you're up to no good, though.) |
Are you kidding me? Not in SE Asia. Maybe in Thailand and Malaysia as bad as they are, the two shining stars in SE Asia. Just recently people were dying at Chiang Mai Inn for unknown reasons and it took many months for the police to even think there was something wrong with people dying at the same motel under the same circumstances. An individual from Saudi Arabia came to Thailand to investigate a jewel theft (lots of money) and was murdered. The police are still dragging their heels over that, who knows they might be involved.
In Indonesia the police aren't just crooked, THEY ARE the criminals. |
SE asia very different from NE asia (Pacific region). Got it. Mostly safe up there (here). Guess if I ever go, I'll stay in a regular hotel and either try to stay in a safe area or make sure my combat skills are up to par. |
The areas that can be dangerous in SE Asia are Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam. Thailand especially is usually pretty safe. What I was saying is don't expect to much police help in SE Asia except for Malaysia and Thailand were you will get some help if its serious. |
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