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Looking For A Job? Try Craig's List!
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HELICIS



Joined: 15 Sep 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:15 am    Post subject: Looking For A Job? Try Craig's List! Reply with quote

I've been in and out of Korea since 1995, and I'm finally leaving for good. Something I've held my tongue on since a recruiter friend of mine told me. A lot of recruiters get lead's from Craig's List Seoul under "Help Wanted, Education." On the flip side of the coin, a lot of schools advertise there everyday to avoid paying recruiters money as well.

You'll see a lot of them saying that they don't want recruiters contacting them. If you are looking for a job, cruise Craig's List Seoul. Be polite and follow their instructions to contact them. For example, if they say don't contact them by phone, don't do it. But let them know you are available, can come soon (or are in country) and have your paperwork ready.

You'd be surprised how fast they'll respond to someone who is ready to go and has paperwork to prove they're legit. Tight market? Yes, but sans recruiter; much more teacher friendly......................
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a good thing that a lot of schools are posting there on their own. Cut out the middle man. Deal directly with the person hiring you.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Methinks this should be made a sticky
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a job for my school there and got back a response from a 19 year old without a degree who put "Photography -I have an old Polaroid camera" under her interests.
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Jingo besus



Joined: 12 Sep 2011
Location: The Clipperton Suite

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's nothing, we once got sent a CV by somebody who'd listed their hobbies as:

Mimicry (donald duck), Music & Net Surfing
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HELICIS



Joined: 15 Sep 2011
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of running a school is wading thru BS, right? But instead of paying recruiter fees, which are becoming more ridiculous all the time, you can get it straight from the teachers themselves.

Dave's used to have the service free, and it helped a lot of teachers in a bind. They could hear back directly from school managers/owners themselves quickly. After he started charging for it, the people who started using it were the recruiters who were trolling.
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koreatimes



Joined: 07 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The school could just advertise a site which has a form to fill out. That's what many recruiters use.
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both people I've met who found a job on Craigslist had exceptionally lousy jobs. (Forced overtime on Sunday, pay problems, terrible housing, more than the usual level of crazy from the director, that kind of thing.) That was two years ago though, maybe the selection there is improving? It would be great if more schools found out about it and could avoid the recruiters.
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World Traveler



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
Both people I've met who found a job on Craigslist had exceptionally lousy jobs. (Forced overtime on Sunday, pay problems, terrible housing, more than the usual level of crazy from the director, that kind of thing.) That was two years ago though, maybe the selection there is improving?


Definately not! Most of the jobs on there are crap, the exception being those that say "F2/F4 visa only" and "females only". The jobs on there are laughably bad. But maybe that's most jobs everywhere in Korea in this currently terrible ESL market.

And it is recruiters as much as schools posting on there. I see the same old jobs spammed over and over again. It's like other job sites, but without regulation.
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northway



Joined: 05 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jingo besus wrote:
That's nothing, we once got sent a CV by somebody who'd listed their hobbies as:

Mimicry (donald duck), Music & Net Surfing


She also listed one of her accomplishments as having been given a dress by a fashion designer she worked for.
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AlastairKirby



Joined: 29 Aug 2011
Location: UK

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it from someone who has been checking Craigslist, Hiexpat, Dave's, Worknplay, Planet People, ESL teachers board etc EVERY DAY that very few decent jobs get posted. The direct hire jobs are few and far between.

Craigslist is spam, spam, spam, spam, egg, chips and spam. The same jobs over and over again. I know because as soon as I open the page in my browser half the positions are in purple writing. The same recruiters posting the same jobs. The only good jobs are females only or F2 or F4.

I think Craigslist is good for people on F visas to find part time work and privates. Less useful for E2s.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AlastairKirby wrote:
Take it from someone who has been checking Craigslist, Hiexpat, Dave's, Worknplay, Planet People, ESL teachers board etc EVERY DAY that very few decent jobs get posted. The direct hire jobs are few and far between.

Craigslist is spam, spam, spam, spam, egg, chips and spam. The same jobs over and over again. I know because as soon as I open the page in my browser half the positions are in purple writing. The same recruiters posting the same jobs. The only good jobs are females only or F2 or F4.

I think Craigslist is good for people on F visas to find part time work and privates. Less useful for E2s.


Shhhhh. Don't tell everyone ALL the job sites! Laughing

Craigslist has a few decent gigs. The recruiter spam is all junk (like it is on every site). The good stuff is direct hire and the F2 stuff. I guess I'm kind of ignoring all the spam and focusing just on the F2 though.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jingo besus wrote:
That's nothing, we once got sent a CV by somebody who'd listed their hobbies as:

Mimicry (donald duck), Music & Net Surfing


There could be a thread dedicated to this topic alone: wading through all the moronic applications employers get. When I was working on the hiring committee at the University, we got some real gems. The same holds true for my consulting agency when I hire. It is amazingly hard to find good, reliable, qualified people!
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ZIFA



Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Jingo besus wrote:
That's nothing, we once got sent a CV by somebody who'd listed their hobbies as:

Mimicry (donald duck), Music & Net Surfing


There could be a thread dedicated to this topic alone: wading through all the moronic applications employers get. When I was working on the hiring committee at the University, we got some real gems.


Qualifications: Level 2 French Horn
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Jingo besus



Joined: 12 Sep 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An entire personal statement written from the first person perspective of the applicants fountain pen, detailing its existence from its manufacture to the present day.
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