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My Iphone 4S review (previous 3GS user)
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've gotta' say - once I switched over to a iMac, iTunes is no longer an issue. I disliked it a lot on my PC, but really enjoy it on my Mac.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
I've gotta' say - once I switched over to a iMac, iTunes is no longer an issue. I disliked it a lot on my PC, but really enjoy it on my Mac.


Be careful....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15881034

Just curious. As someone who has moved from PC to Mac, how is iTunes better than just downloading, dragging and dropping?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
I've gotta' say - once I switched over to a iMac, iTunes is no longer an issue. I disliked it a lot on my PC, but really enjoy it on my Mac.


Be careful....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15881034

Just curious. As someone who has moved from PC to Mac, how is iTunes better than just downloading, dragging and dropping?


Honestly, as a PC user with iTunes, it always felt sort of clunky. It crashed fairly often, and it always gave me the impression it wasn't designed for a PC.

Now that I use it on my Mac, I find that it never* crashes, it's great for storing not only vids - but the info attached to them, and flows nicely with the iDevices I have at home.

I convert XYZ series for my daughter, all of the information is already embedded by an app, and I can easily swap it on and off her iPad whenever she wants to changes shows she's got on it.

Like so many Apple products, it just gives a bit of ease to things. I wouldn't claim anything revolutionary... just a bit smoother.
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carleverson



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I completely disagree about itunes...If anything it makes things MORE time consuming and adds more steps to what should be very simple tasks. For example, I own an ipod Touch and have to plug in my ipod to the computer, start itunes on my PC, then download my podcasts onto the computer, then finally I can download to my ipod touch. That's 3-4 STEPS simply to download some podcasts!!! AND IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF 5-10 MINUTES TO DO!!!

On my HTC android phone, I simply start the podcast software and download the podcast directly to my phone via WIFI. ALL DONE IN 2-3 MINS MAX.

Have you tried watching a tv show you download as a torrent on an ipod touch or your tiny 3.5" iphone screen? Make sure it's in an accepted MP4 format because, you're going to have to spend AT LEAST 5-10 minutes converting it if you want to watch it on any apple product.

On an android phone, you can drag and drop and watch that same video instantly on a 4.3" screen. My HTC phone plays MP4, avi, WMV, and even 1080 MKV files instantly!

Many people who own apple stuff jump through hoops to defend their iphones, ipads, macbooks and are quick to bash android...but after using both there's really no reason for me personally even consider using overpriced Apple products again. They're simply not worth it. Just my humble opinion.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carleverson wrote:
I completely disagree about itunes...If anything it makes things MORE time consuming and adds more steps to what should be very simple tasks. For example, I own an ipod Touch and have to plug in my ipod to the computer, start itunes on my PC, then download my podcasts onto the computer, then finally I can download to my ipod touch. That's 3-4 STEPS simply to download some podcasts!!! AND IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF 5-10 MINUTES TO DO!!!

On my HTC android phone, I simply start the podcast software and download the podcast directly to my phone via WIFI. ALL DONE IN 2-3 MINS MAX.

Have you tried watching a tv show you download as a torrent on an ipod touch or your tiny 3.5" iphone screen? Make sure it's in an accepted MP4 format because, you're going to have to spend AT LEAST 5-10 minutes converting it if you want to watch it on any apple product.

On an android phone, you can drag and drop and watch that same video instantly on a 4.3" screen. My HTC phone plays MP4, avi, WMV, and even 1080 MKV files instantly!

Many people who own apple stuff jump through hoops to defend their iphones, ipads, macbooks and are quick to bash android...but after using both there's really no reason for me personally even consider using overpriced Apple products again. They're simply not worth it. Just my humble opinion.


1. Wifi Sync with iOS5. No plugging to the computer. Drag and drop from Itunes to your iDevice.

2. AirVideo App. I stream everything to my Iphone from my computer, HD quality, no copying, dragging, dropping, whatever. Just press play.


I think most Android users forget to mention the hundreds of iPhone Apps that make using the phone so much better. Iphone native email sucks? There are a dozen other email apps that rock. Native Iphone Camera App sucks? There are hundreds of Camera Apps that make it rock.


When talking about the Iphone, you can't discount all the Apps that make the phone great to use.
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spanky1off



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang what email app is good for iphone? not overly sold on the standard out of the box affair.

btw that air video is cool right...maybe im starting to become a fanboy too Shocked
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spanky1off wrote:
pkang what email app is good for iphone? not overly sold on the standard out of the box affair.

btw that air video is cool right...maybe im starting to become a fanboy too Shocked


Which email do you have? If you use Gmail, Google just released their Gmail App.

BTW:

http://www.macgasm.net/2011/11/25/iphone-users-loyal-android-users-started-rim/

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According to research firm Gfk, 84% of iPhone users plan on continuing with the platform while only 60% of Android users feel the same way about their own platform.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carleverson wrote:
I completely disagree about itunes...If anything it makes things MORE time consuming and adds more steps to what should be very simple tasks. For example, I own an ipod Touch and have to plug in my ipod to the computer, start itunes on my PC, then download my podcasts onto the computer, then finally I can download to my ipod touch. That's 3-4 STEPS simply to download some podcasts!!! AND IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF 5-10 MINUTES TO DO!!!

On my HTC android phone, I simply start the podcast software and download the podcast directly to my phone via WIFI. ALL DONE IN 2-3 MINS MAX.


You can do the same thing with the iPhone/iPad.

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Have you tried watching a tv show you download as a torrent on an ipod touch or your tiny 3.5" iphone screen? Make sure it's in an accepted MP4 format because, you're going to have to spend AT LEAST 5-10 minutes converting it if you want to watch it on any apple product.

On an android phone, you can drag and drop and watch that same video instantly on a 4.3" screen. My HTC phone plays MP4, avi, WMV, and even 1080 MKV files instantly!


You can do that as well. There are many apps out there that allow you to play in various video formats. The native one only allows for certain formats, but you're not restricted to using it.
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carleverson



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:


1. Wifi Sync with iOS5. No plugging to the computer. Drag and drop from Itunes to your iDevice.



So you have to go to your computer, start itunes, download podcasts, THEN you can sync with wifi, THEN you can drag and drop??? Dude that's STILL 3-4 more steps than what it takes android phones to download podcasts.

Your blind faith in Apple is causing you to be irrational now. Laughing
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

carleverson wrote:
On my HTC android phone, I simply start the podcast software and download the podcast directly to my phone via WIFI. ALL DONE IN 2-3 MINS MAX.


I can do the same with my iPhone. Next!
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carleverson wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:


1. Wifi Sync with iOS5. No plugging to the computer. Drag and drop from Itunes to your iDevice.



So you have to go to your computer, start itunes, download podcasts, THEN you can sync with wifi, THEN you can drag and drop??? Dude that's STILL 3-4 more steps than what it takes android phones to download podcasts.

Your blind faith in Apple is causing you to be irrational now. Laughing


No. You can use wifi/3G and download the podcast directly to your device. And it's not a new function.

Your blind hatred of Apple is causing you to be irrational now. ;lol;
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spanky1off



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People can always find little annoyances in one another's systems. If eventually the best of the best ideas are used then it's all good no matter the phone. Good to see healthy competition (if we can forget these stupid patent battles)

I'm coming from galaxy s to 4s and I think I understand a little more about the praise apple device users heap onto the products. U can't really describe it but the user experience just feels much nicer. Slick smooth transitions, the overall design just feels more integrated. The product definitely feels premium when your holding/using it. I know specs wise the s2 is ahead but I think apple have understood its not a race about specs but having a model of phone design with os design and then the whole app store control has ensured users get a similar quality experience. I really wonder if google will eventually just use that business model themselves? I just personally think were at a stage certainly functionality wise where there isn't much to desperate the leading phone except personal preference.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
carleverson wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:


1. Wifi Sync with iOS5. No plugging to the computer. Drag and drop from Itunes to your iDevice.



So you have to go to your computer, start itunes, download podcasts, THEN you can sync with wifi, THEN you can drag and drop??? Dude that's STILL 3-4 more steps than what it takes android phones to download podcasts.

Your blind faith in Apple is causing you to be irrational now. Laughing


No. You can use wifi/3G and download the podcast directly to your device. And it's not a new function.

Your blind hatred of Apple is causing you to be irrational now. ;lol;


+1
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spanky1off wrote:
People can always find little annoyances in one another's systems. If eventually the best of the best ideas are used then it's all good no matter the phone. Good to see healthy competition (if we can forget these stupid patent battles)

I'm coming from galaxy s to 4s and I think I understand a little more about the praise apple device users heap onto the products. U can't really describe it but the user experience just feels much nicer. Slick smooth transitions, the overall design just feels more integrated. The product definitely feels premium when your holding/using it. I know specs wise the s2 is ahead but I think apple have understood its not a race about specs but having a model of phone design with os design and then the whole app store control has ensured users get a similar quality experience. I really wonder if google will eventually just use that business model themselves? I just personally think were at a stage certainly functionality wise where there isn't much to desperate the leading phone except personal preference.


The slick user experience is to be expected when the one company controls the hardware, the OS, and the apps very tightly.......which is all fine and good if you like the way Apple does things.
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carleverson



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
carleverson wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:


1. Wifi Sync with iOS5. No plugging to the computer. Drag and drop from Itunes to your iDevice.



So you have to go to your computer, start itunes, download podcasts, THEN you can sync with wifi, THEN you can drag and drop??? Dude that's STILL 3-4 more steps than what it takes android phones to download podcasts.

Your blind faith in Apple is causing you to be irrational now. Laughing


No. You can use wifi/3G and download the podcast directly to your device. And it's not a new function.

Your blind hatred of Apple is causing you to be irrational now. ;lol;


Then why do you need iTunes in the first place???? DOUBLE LOL!!!
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