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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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 Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:53 pm Post subject: How can the police allow this driving madness? |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC0aOZZDjq4&feature=youtu.be
As a person who drives, catches a bus, rides a bike or is a pedestrian this makes me angry. Police in most countries wouldn't drive like this and they are trained.
Tow trucks drivers are not trained for high speed driving as you can tell from this video. The police must stop this madness.
You could also relieve traffic congestion if people moved their cars after accidents. I saw 2 lanes of peak hour traffic blocked the other day over an minor accident. The damage could have been fixed with a tin of car polish. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Korean police are paid by tow truck companies to tip them off to an accident.
Korean police are paid by the government even if they sleep in their cars all day. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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Eglayzer
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Gimhae-si, near Busan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| This is why I don't ride y bicycle in the streets here much anymore. Too many fucking crazies with no respect for human life. I'll stick to the bicycle paths and risk running over the occasional ajuma who crosses the bike path without looking away from her phone. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Contrary to popular belief. These guys know what they're doing:
This includes taxi drivers and scooters.
I commuted every day here and unlike them I don't drive 8+ hours a day. They drive rough, but they have the experience that far outstrips yours. If they didn't know what they were doing, they'd be dead. Even when they run lights, they know the right way to do it(they've driven the same street for YEARS).
I've found drunk drivers and buses to be much bigger concerns. Those guys WILL hit you. |
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chrisblank
Joined: 14 Aug 2009
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
Contrary to popular belief. These guys know what they're doing:
This includes taxi drivers and scooters.
I commuted every day here and unlike them I don't drive 8+ hours a day. They drive rough, but they have the experience that far outstrips yours. If they didn't know what they were doing, they'd be dead. Even when they run lights, they know the right way to do it(they've driven the same street for YEARS).
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You are living in a dream world. Good grief what an idea...
I can't tell you how often I've had to slam on the brakes or swerve to avoid a taxi or scooter that has run a red light who "knows what he's doing"
omg what a statement.
I have literally been going through an intersection after the light changed to green and have had buses and taxis zoom by behind me as they run the red light..if I had been a little slower I'd be dead. I have seen so many bus, taxi and scooter accidents due to bad driving that it is not even funny. They do not have the experience and do not know how the right way to do it, hence the high death rate on Korean roads. (27 traffic deaths per day according to OECD)
I've driven here daily for over 11 years and only had two accidents, both being rear-ended at red lights, and one was by a taxi driver. I could go on and on, but my hands are shaking... |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I drive in a rural area here and there are hundreds of unnecessary redlights that impede what should be a normal flow of traffic.
The u-turns are also a hassle and a danger.
The taxi and scooter drivers have to start somewhere they don't all know what they're doing. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
Contrary to popular belief. These guys know what they're doing:
This includes taxi drivers and scooters.
I commuted every day here and unlike them I don't drive 8+ hours a day. They drive rough, but they have the experience that far outstrips yours. If they didn't know what they were doing, they'd be dead. Even when they run lights, they know the right way to do it(they've driven the same street for YEARS).
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You are living in a dream world. Good grief what an idea...
I can't tell you how often I've had to slam on the brakes or swerve to avoid a taxi or scooter that has run a red light who "knows what he's doing"
omg what a statement.
I have literally been going through an intersection after the light changed to green and have had buses and taxis zoom by behind me as they run the red light..if I had been a little slower I'd be dead. I have seen so many bus, taxi and scooter accidents due to bad driving that it is not even funny. They do not have the experience and do not know how the right way to do it, hence the high death rate on Korean roads. (27 traffic deaths per day according to OECD)
I've driven here daily for over 11 years and only had two accidents, both being rear-ended at red lights, and one was by a taxi driver. I could go on and on, but my hands are shaking... |
Totally agree....I've had so many near accidents because of these guys that it seems like a daily experience. They absolutely DO NOT drive with skill or seem to know what they're doing. It's only because of my defensive driving style have I avoided being hit by buses, taxis and delivery bikers many many times.
The worst drivers are the guys who think they're the best drivers. Good driving skill means making good progress in a safe way with consideration of other drivers and the comfort of your passengers. The buses and taxis in Korea definitely do not do that.
Ever rode a bus hanging onto the handrail for dear life while the driver is stomping the brake and gas pedals every 2 seconds?? Some bus drivers here are ridiculously bad and would be fired on their first day in any western city. |
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
I drive in a rural area here and there are hundreds of unnecessary redlights that impede what should be a normal flow of traffic.
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Some of the red lights are very unnecessary, blocking the traffic for 2 minutes at 1 AM even though there is only a single car on the road. I perfectly well understand why they run a red light in those situations. Likewise, some of the pedestrian lights show red even when the car traffic lights prohibit any cars from crossing the pedestrian crossings.
But I've also seen cars running red lights in the middle of rush hour, getting stuck in the middle of the intersection because the traffic in the perpendicular direction has trapped them from driving forward or backwards. In those situations I have started to really wonder what was going through their mind. It has also taught me that the right reaction as a pedestrian when the light turn green is to make sure that no cars are coming before crossing the roads. Walking into the road as soon as the lights turn green will get you hit by a car sooner or later. |
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Eglayzer
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
Location: Gimhae-si, near Busan
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
Contrary to popular belief. These guys know what they're doing:
This includes taxi drivers and scooters.
I commuted every day here and unlike them I don't drive 8+ hours a day. They drive rough, but they have the experience that far outstrips yours. If they didn't know what they were doing, they'd be dead. Even when they run lights, they know the right way to do it(they've driven the same street for YEARS).
I've found drunk drivers and buses to be much bigger concerns. Those guys WILL hit you. |
So do professional NASCAR drivers but even they are not allowed to drive like this on public roads. Statistically, NASCAR drivers are more likely to be in an accident or recieve a citation than your average driver in the US so obviously "driving skills" as you are defining then mean very little when trying to get to and from work without being murdered by these clowns. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
I drive in a rural area here and there are hundreds of unnecessary redlights that impede what should be a normal flow of traffic.
The u-turns are also a hassle and a danger. |
According to you. On the other hand, the urban planners involved with actually determining the necessity of the expenditure for the hundreds of red lights decided that the things are necessary. Of course, one of the deciding factors in such an equation is the number of accidents in that location when it was not equiped with a traffic light.
Designated U-turn areas seem to be a great idea: no surprises (in the instances of people actually abiding by the law), dedicated U-turn lights, and assurance that the driver can safely make the U-turn.
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| The taxi and scooter drivers have to start somewhere they don't all know what they're doing. |
I'd venture that not that many of them actually do know what they're doing. They are simply dangerous. And that danger is intentional. I don't care what the root cause is--selfish bastard who can't bother to show any concern for others, cheap bastard who can't be bothered to pay a parking fee, impatient bastard who can't be bothered to wait a minute or less at a traffic light--the intent is to do something for himself at the expense of others. And far too often, that expense is another's life or limb. |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| UknowsI wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
I drive in a rural area here and there are hundreds of unnecessary redlights that impede what should be a normal flow of traffic.
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But I've also seen cars running red lights in the middle of rush hour, getting stuck in the middle of the intersection because the traffic in the perpendicular direction has trapped them from driving forward or backwards. In those situations I have started to really wonder what was going through their mind. It has also taught me that the right reaction as a pedestrian when the light turn green is to make sure that no cars are coming before crossing the roads. Walking into the road as soon as the lights turn green will get you hit by a car sooner or later. |
Not only running red lights but following the car in front and not reading the situation ahead. I'm sure we've all seen numerous cases of cars sitting blocking the opposite flow of traffic because they thought they could keep moving forward before the lights changed to red.
Even with cars stopped at pedestrian crossing, bike delivery drivers will still always try to weave through the pedestrians that are crossing. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Until that video posted on youtube, I had no idea tow truck drivers drove like that.
Maybe someone else has witnessed it, but in the 5 years I've lived in Korea I've seen motorcycles racings, cars racing, even buses racing, but I've never seen a tow trucks racing. |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| warmachinenkorea wrote: |
I drive in a rural area here and there are hundreds of unnecessary redlights that impede what should be a normal flow of traffic.
The u-turns are also a hassle and a danger. |
According to you. On the other hand, the urban planners involved with actually determining the necessity of the expenditure for the hundreds of red lights decided that the things are necessary. Of course, one of the deciding factors in such an equation is the number of accidents in that location when it was not equiped with a traffic light.
Designated U-turn areas seem to be a great idea: no surprises (in the instances of people actually abiding by the law), dedicated U-turn lights, and assurance that the driver can safely make the U-turn.
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| The taxi and scooter drivers have to start somewhere they don't all know what they're doing. |
I'd venture that not that many of them actually do know what they're doing. They are simply dangerous. And that danger is intentional. I don't care what the root cause is--selfish bastard who can't bother to show any concern for others, cheap bastard who can't be bothered to pay a parking fee, impatient bastard who can't be bothered to wait a minute or less at a traffic light--the intent is to do something for himself at the expense of others. And far too often, that expense is another's life or limb. |
Yea, the urban planners like to back up cars on the main road so a small side road with no painted lines or a one lane road can have one car turn. I drive these roads every day and a 12 km drive that should take 5 minutes takes 20-25. The only accidents I've seen are the people that got rear ended or got hit trying to change lanes because the roads are too crowded from the multiple red lights.
Koreans don't trust their drivers very much. Have you noticed there are no "left turn yield on green lights here"? Many places in Daegu, at major intersections, left turns are prohibited. You must go make a u-turn into on coming traffic where another right lane is merging into a straight lane and then people are you turning. Cutting across 4 lanes is to get to a u-turn because there is no left turn is always nice too.
This is pretty accurate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKcSZfY1sf4 |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| minos wrote: |
Contrary to popular belief. These guys know what they're doing:
This includes taxi drivers and scooters.
I commuted every day here and unlike them I don't drive 8+ hours a day. They drive rough, but they have the experience that far outstrips yours. If they didn't know what they were doing, they'd be dead. Even when they run lights, they know the right way to do it(they've driven the same street for YEARS).
I've found drunk drivers and buses to be much bigger concerns. Those guys WILL hit you. |
Worst post I've read this month. |
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