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Girls' Generation targets American markets
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:

Look at some of the comments as to what the American mainstream thinks of them lol


Go to 4:16 on the video and look at Regis's crotch. That says all you need to know about how they did.


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Carbon



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lip-syncing their way to the dream baby.

They looked absolutely ridiculous on Letterman (smacking one another, they were so crammed in), even more so on that morning show. Shaking their Eurasian butts on national TV at 7 AM....sad.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon wrote:
Lip-syncing their way to the dream baby.

They looked absolutely ridiculous on Letterman (smacking one another, they were so crammed in), even more so on that morning show. Shaking their Eurasian butts on national TV at 7 AM....sad.


Eurasian?
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Carbon



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eurasian.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carbon wrote:
Lip-syncing their way to the dream baby.

They looked absolutely ridiculous on Letterman (smacking one another, they were so crammed in), even more so on that morning show. Shaking their Eurasian looking butts on national TV at 7 AM....sad.


I fixed your post.
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Dave Chance



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madoka wrote:
Dodge7 wrote:

Look at some of the comments as to what the American mainstream thinks of them lol


Go to 4:16 on the video and look at Regis's crotch. That says all you need to know about how they did.


And that is just about all they mean to the average American male
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Dodge7



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're going to flop so hard. Why is it so embarrassing to watch this video. Who can explain why it would make ME embarrassed....it's an honest question. I wasn't the one up there but I cringe with anxiety when watching it.
Weird.
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edwardcatflap



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day it's about the music. Yes they looked good and danced well but the song was so so (it sounded like a toned down version of 'who let the dogs out?). It doesn't have a melody you can hum. There's no reason why a Korean act can't have a hit single in the USA or Europe but the song needs to be up to par. Lots of pure pop acts from other countries have been a hit in the UK for example, e.g. Aqua, Barbie Girl (Denmark), Macarena (Spain) AHA (Norway) but it was always the songs that did it for them. They were incredibly catchy and caused a stir on the dance floor. With average material, it's a lot easier making it if you're local. Sure the Koreans will have a real hit eventually but I don't understand why they keep trying to turn it into a nationalistic 'wave' that's sweeping the world. The whole point of a 'wave' is a lot of mediocre stuff gets swept up and lumped together with the odd gem or two. Real quality acts always try and avoid being associated with such a term. Yes they may have the odd individual hit here and there in the West in the future but that's all it'll be. And they haven't even achieved that so far.
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Squire



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an awful song that was.

radcon wrote:
Real rapping discusses topics such as ghetto life, big booty girls, drugs, drink, pimpin. I have always wondered what Korea "rappers" say. "My mom makes me study a lot, yo."


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Mix1



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just the beginning...

The marketing will continue. It won't be popular from a musical standpoint, but it will get more exposure.

An audience likes novelty and something new. It sounds like C-grade American pop circa '97, but they are Asian and cute. There's your novelty.

For most adults, it will be seen as ridiculous, but think about how the under 12 crowd will view it.

And think of the perv factor. Without the legs and gyrations, you'd have almost nobody over 12 able to endure it.

It will make a brief splash and then they'll be a backlash via mocking from shows like Daily Show, Southpark, SNL, etc., and then it will crash but still retain its Asian teen fan base.

Then again you never know. If Nicky Minaj can become popular we obviously haven't reached the bottom yet. (speaking of bottoms)
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of waves and rock bottoms....this from another thread but oh so relevant here.
http://www.theonion.com/video/pop-stars-single-booty-wave-most-likely-civilizati,26868/
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everything-is-everything



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Without Americans, there would be no Jazz.

'nough said.


Actually without African-Americans and weed there would be no jazz Wink
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jfromtheway



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

everything-is-everything wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
Without Americans, there would be no Jazz.

'nough said.


Actually without African-Americans and weed there would be no jazz Wink


Yes. Nor would there be the blues, rock and roll, disco, electronic music, hip-hop, etc. If you're a digger, you'll see how African Americans had a higher impact on every form of American music than many people would choose to acknowledge. Essentially, African Americans created American music.
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Mix1



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
everything-is-everything wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
Without Americans, there would be no Jazz.

'nough said.


Actually without African-Americans and weed there would be no jazz Wink


Yes. Nor would there be the blues, rock and roll, disco, electronic music, hip-hop, etc. If you're a digger, you'll see how African Americans had a higher impact on every form of American music than many people would choose to acknowledge. Essentially, African Americans created American music.

And the weed helped too.
Along with psychedelics, heroin, and other substances.

"electronic music" would have existed but wouldn't be nearly as funky without African American influence.
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jfromtheway



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
jfromtheway wrote:
everything-is-everything wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
Without Americans, there would be no Jazz.

'nough said.


Actually without African-Americans and weed there would be no jazz Wink


Yes. Nor would there be the blues, rock and roll, disco, electronic music, hip-hop, etc. If you're a digger, you'll see how African Americans had a higher impact on every form of American music than many people would choose to acknowledge. Essentially, African Americans created American music.

And the weed helped too.
Along with psychedelics, heroin, and other substances.

"electronic music" would have existed but wouldn't be nearly as funky without African American influence.


Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of early house music (aka off beat Disco at the time), where black people owned it at places like the Garage and turned it into what was to become electronic music. American music is generally a drug-infused, stylistic self-progression, fueled by drugs and groovy black dudes. And I mean that in the best possible way. I'm a huge jazz fan, and the most skilled practitioners were almost always black guys who were addicted to something; in the 40s-60s, usually heroin. That being said, my favorite jazz pianist, Bill Evans, was a white guy... but he was also a heroin addict for most of his life.
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