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ssavage4
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 Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:16 am Post subject: Visa approved, but don't want the job. Options? |
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I had my E-2 visa approved, but due to the schools actions I no longer want to accept the job.
What are my options for taking another position? How long do I have to wait before I can take another job? If I decline to take this position, can I transfer the visa in 3 months, or do I need the permission from the original school? Can I neglect to get the visa at the consulate and just enter on a tourist visa now?
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Visa approved, but don't want the job. Options? |
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| ssavage4 wrote: |
| but due to the schools actions I no longer want to accept the job. |
lol... please elaborate. |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Visa approved, but don't want the job. Options? |
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| Julius wrote: |
| ssavage4 wrote: |
| but due to the schools actions I no longer want to accept the job. |
lol... please elaborate. |
If you check some of his previous posts you will get the whole tale.
I have been looking, but can not find the info (yet), but one they have issued a number you can not cancel it. You might have to end up waiting a few months. But do not quote me on that ttompatz will have better info. |
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Skippy
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ssavage4
Joined: 04 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the help, I appreciate it. Trying to weigh my options here. Not looking great. |
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modernseoul
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Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Visa approved, but don't want the job. Options? |
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| ssavage4 wrote: |
I had my E-2 visa approved, but due to the schools actions I no longer want to accept the job.
What are my options for taking another position? How long do I have to wait before I can take another job? If I decline to take this position, can I transfer the visa in 3 months, or do I need the permission from the original school? Can I neglect to get the visa at the consulate and just enter on a tourist visa now?
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What are my options for taking another position? You can but you'd have to get all of your documents again.
How long do I have to wait before I can take another job?
If I decline to take this position, can I transfer the visa in 3 months, or do I need the permission from the original school? You can't transfer your visa unless you school gives you permission, and I believe there is a minimum time period as well.
Can I neglect to get the visa at the consulate and just enter on a tourist visa now? Yes, but only as a tourist and without your documents you wouldn't be able to get a work visa, so why? |
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ssavage4
Joined: 04 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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The 2nd school is telling me to ask the 1st school to fire me and then report it to immigration, and then I will be able to work at the 2nd school.
Does anyone know if this is true?
Do I have to work at the 1st school for a certain amount of time to be able to do this? Or does it not matter?
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| he 2nd school is telling me to ask the 1st school to fire me |
I don't think it has to be that extreme. I did something similar. I was finishing at school 1, got a visa change to multiple entry and signed a new contract with school 2 (I only had single entry at the first school), and before the 2nd school contract period started, school 2 and I decided not to work together (mutually). I went to immigration with school 3 and immigration just processed it as if I went from school 1 to 3. They added a change of work location stamp in my passport and updated my ARC card.
In your case, you probably won't need the ARC card update if you are new to Korea. Also, I needed another transfer letter, which you probably don't need.
The question is, who should go with you to immigration? School 1 or School 2? I am thinking school 1, but you need to have all the paperwork with school 2 also when you go so immigration can see you could have a different employer. They are less likely to ok it if you just walk in and ask them to cancel the first school's contract.
Another option in case nothing else works is to change your visa to a D10. This would be something to buy yourself more time, but if you already have a second school then hopefully the officer you talk with will see the extra paperwork it will take and just allow a simple location transfer and update the contract with the new one. Your ARC card could also be applied for.
Are you in Korea or trying to do all this out of Korea? That might also have a bearing on all this. If you are in Korea, you might have a greater chance of getting all this changed over. If you want to play it safe, get new documents, and I think you have to wait 90 days for the current visa to expire. |
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ssavage4
Joined: 04 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm outside of Korea, so I don't yet have an ARC card. I think because I have not yet started this job and am not currently in the country.. I may be in a more difficult situation. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ssavage4 wrote: |
| I'm outside of Korea, so I don't yet have an ARC card. I think because I have not yet started this job and am not currently in the country.. I may be in a more difficult situation. |
If you have a visa in your passport you will need to wait till it expires.
Depending on the consulate that may be 90 days hence or 1 year hence (I assumed you were American). IF you are not American then 90 days after date of issue.
If you have NOT you got your visa in your passport then your confirmation number will expire in 90 days and you are free to start again. You can do nothing in the meantime except arrange for new documents.
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ssavage4
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Thanks ttompatz. I do not have the e-2 visa in my passport yet, and I am Canadian. Waiting 90 days isn't really an option for me at this point, as it is only a 6 month contract I'm looking for since I'll be starting grad school in the fall. Besides... the initial contract I signed for the 1st school was for a Feb 1st start date. I've waited long enough and really need to be working ASAP.
Just to confirm though, asking the 1st school to fire me is not an option? Even though the 2nd school is telling me that it is? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks ttompatz. I do not have the e-2 visa in my passport yet, and I am Canadian. Waiting 90 days isn't really an option for me at this point, as it is only a 6 month contract I'm looking for since I'll be starting grad school in the fall. Besides... the initial contract I signed for the 1st school was for a Feb 1st start date. I've waited long enough and really need to be working ASAP.
Just to confirm though, asking the 1st school to fire me is not an option? Even though the 2nd school is telling me that it is? |
There aren't six mont contracts that I'm aware of. I once worked at a hagwon for seven months, but that's because the boss understood I was going back to graduate school, and I had told him that in the beginning, and he was okay with that, and a friend of mine worked at the school and recommended me. That's kind of the exception. Why don't you work in Canada for six months, and, then, go to graduate school? Who would want to pay for your airfare for you only to be there for six months?
Hogwans won't want that. You'd have to not tell them that you're going to skip town. Of course, that's dishonest. |
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ssavage4
Joined: 04 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm not asking how to find a 6 month contract... I already have 2 schools willing to hire me for 6 months.
The 1st school is an English Village. They have 3, 6, and 12 month contracts.
My friends school has a job opening and needs someone ASAP, and is willing to hiring me for their less than ideal 6 months, because of my good references. So yes I am being completely honest with them, and they suggested having the first school fire me, so that they can then hire me legally for 6 months... which is the question I've been trying to ask.
And Adventurer, when is the last time you tried to look for a job in Canada? It's not that easy finding something right away. I have had the job at the English Village lined up since last October, as I was travelling, returning home for the holidays, and then back to Korea to make some money before school. I've had the rug pulled out from underneath me with the English Village, as I worked there last summer and never thought I would have such issues with them.
It has been only a week since I found out that they no longer want to hire my boyfriend, and this puts things in an entirely new perspective. I'm no longer just waiting impatiently for this job to work out as before. I've been utterly screwed and don't like the idea of spending 6 months with the people that screwed me.
Yes in the week since I've found out about this I have been looking for jobs in Canada, and surprise surprise in this current economy, a week hasn't come up with many offers.
I'm trying to salvage my chance to work in Korea, as those are the only job offers I have right now.
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Thanks ttompatz. I do not have the e-2 visa in my passport yet, and I am Canadian. Waiting 90 days isn't really an option for me at this point, as it is only a 6 month contract I'm looking for since I'll be starting grad school in the fall. Besides... the initial contract I signed for the 1st school was for a Feb 1st start date. I've waited long enough and really need to be working ASAP.
Just to confirm though, asking the 1st school to fire me is not an option? Even though the 2nd school is telling me that it is? |
If a visa confirmation number has been issued then you are screwed until it expires (90 days from date of issue) - full stop.
Even if the first employer fires you immigration won't issue a new number while one is outstanding. Why? Because they don't need to, are under no obligation to do so and don't care about a newbie coming or not coming to Korea. There are 23000 more just like you to fill your shoes and this is their busiest time of the year so they don't have the desk time to contemplate the issues - they just say no (because it is fast and easy and they can - this isn't Canada).
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