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happiness
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 Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:32 am Post subject: Are there not a ton of jobs on the boards right now? |
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Did all of the EPIK or school jobs not get filled? I thought alot of young grads were coming here now. Did they fall through?
By the looks of it, it looks like a teachers market again...any ideas?
thanks. Im going to quit my current long term position (3+ years) and try for something in Busan....Id like another HS. I see them pop up now and then.. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:10 am Post subject: Re: Are there not a ton of jobs on the boards right now? |
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| happiness wrote: |
Did all of the EPIK or school jobs not get filled? I thought alot of young grads were coming here now. Did they fall through?
By the looks of it, it looks like a teachers market again...any ideas?
thanks. Im going to quit my current long term position (3+ years) and try for something in Busan....Id like another HS. I see them pop up now and then.. |
I've read a few positive reports on the US economy lately. maybe things really have started to turn there.
Or maybe the E2 requirements here have finally just proved too much for a lot of people. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Are there not a ton of jobs on the boards right now? |
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| Julius wrote: |
| happiness wrote: |
Did all of the EPIK or school jobs not get filled? I thought alot of young grads were coming here now. Did they fall through?
By the looks of it, it looks like a teachers market again...any ideas?
thanks. Im going to quit my current long term position (3+ years) and try for something in Busan....Id like another HS. I see them pop up now and then.. |
I've read a few positive reports on the US economy lately. maybe things really have started to turn there.
Or maybe the E2 requirements here have finally just proved too much for a lot of people. |
I'm saying a bit of both. Not as easy to backpack over here. Plus, China is coming on line. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Are there not a ton of jobs on the boards right now? |
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| happiness wrote: |
Did all of the EPIK or school jobs not get filled? I thought alot of young grads were coming here now. Did they fall through?
By the looks of it, it looks like a teachers market again...any ideas?
thanks. Im going to quit my current long term position (3+ years) and try for something in Busan....Id like another HS. I see them pop up now and then.. |
There are always a lot of jobs..but they are mostly new and will likely be filled soon. Be wary of extrapolating from this...it hasn't changed all that much for previous years...it's still an employers market
As we see from the Gusts Of Popular Feeling article linked below...the numbers of E-2's coming here each year is increasing...to say nothing of F visas. There was one slight drop off between 2003-2004..then a steady increase since.
[quote]1999 - 5,009
2000 - 6,414
2001 - 8,388
2002 - 10,864
2003 - 11,344
2004 - 11,296
2005 - 12,439
2006 - 15,001
2007 - 17,721
2008 - 19,771
2009 - 22,642
2010 - 23,317
http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2011/07/fluctuating-e-2-numbers.html |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| it's still an employers market |
Looking at those years, it would be an employer's market if teachers were applying at a faster rate.
I think what we are seeing is that the contract conditions are getting worse, teachers already in Korea are getting the good ones, and then it's a combination of more applicants with those rejecting offers which would have been more than suitable years ago.
Take into account the quality factor and the truth is a lot more revealing. My email offers have gone from 4-5 pages of offers with 5-6 decent ones to 12 total. Only one would have been worth asking about, but the pay was low and there was no indication where it was located exactly.
Online shopping for jobs isn't like what it used to be. I feel you need to hit the pavement if you want to secure a good job. Get your documents, go to Korea, and then interview in person. Give it 1 to 2 months, bring enough money. Don't just take a job offer thinking everything will be peachy when you arrive. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Are there not a ton of jobs on the boards right now? |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
As we see from the Gusts Of Popular Feeling article linked below...the numbers of E-2's coming here each year is increasing...to say nothing of F visas. There was one slight drop off between 2003-2004..then a steady increase since.
1999 - 5,009
2000 - 6,414
2001 - 8,388
2002 - 10,864
2003 - 11,344
2004 - 11,296
2005 - 12,439
2006 - 15,001
2007 - 17,721
2008 - 19,771
2009 - 22,642
2010 - 23,317
http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2011/07/fluctuating-e-2-numbers.html |
That would seem to suggest that the number of eslers is unrelated to the western recession and unemployment.
Its a long term trend. A steady increase, probably due to greater awareness of the country and efl generally.
Its entirely likely that Korea will never be an "employees market" ever again. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Are there not a ton of jobs on the boards right now? |
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| Julius wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
As we see from the Gusts Of Popular Feeling article linked below...the numbers of E-2's coming here each year is increasing...to say nothing of F visas. There was one slight drop off between 2003-2004..then a steady increase since.
1999 - 5,009
2000 - 6,414
2001 - 8,388
2002 - 10,864
2003 - 11,344
2004 - 11,296
2005 - 12,439
2006 - 15,001
2007 - 17,721
2008 - 19,771
2009 - 22,642
2010 - 23,317
http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2011/07/fluctuating-e-2-numbers.html |
That would seem to suggest that the number of eslers is unrelated to the western recession and unemployment.
Its a long term trend. A steady increase, probably due to greater awareness of the country and efl generally.
Its entirely likely that Korea will never be an "employees market" ever again. |
Quite likely...UNLESS there is another "IMF crisis" type event. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
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Location: Victoria, Canada.
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The number of E2s issued gives you an idea of the number of jobs available (demand). They don't tell you the number of applicants (supply).
The increase was largely due to the expansion of EPIK; which currently appears to be retrenching. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
The number of E2s issued gives you an idea of the number of jobs available (demand). They don't tell you the number of applicants (supply).
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E-2 visas that are issued ARE issued to applicants. But they are only issued to successful applicants thus meaning the supply likely outstrips demand. Not quite seeing what you are getting at here.
And even the number of E-2 visas are less than demand. Remember the thing with SMOE a couple of years ago? Out of six hundred teachers SMOE told 1 hundred that they didn't have jobs for them.
And now SMOE is cancelling its program to place English teachers in high schools. |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Are there not a ton of jobs on the boards right now? |
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