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CGriswald309B
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Busan, SK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: Are these demands reasonable (for 2 certified US teachers)? |
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First off, I'm not in the mood to spell check or proofread this so whomever wants to poke fun at my grammar and/or spelling can just have at it.
Ok, here's the deal. My girlfriend and I are looking for work in Busan or Seoul. We are both experienced/certified ESL teachers from the US (she's taught 3 years and I've taught 4). I've also taught ESL in Spain and South Korea so I have international teaching experience. She does not. I'm white. She's Filipino-American.
So, we're asking for:
short work days, evening shift, something like 2-9
2.3+ (I'm thinking 2.3 is the max we'll get)
a decent neighborhood in Busan or Seoul
Do you think our demands are unreasonable?
As always, many thanks in advance! |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Sure those demands are reasonable.
It will mean a Hakwon job.
One question: Your gf was born in the US or immigrated there?
Bascially does she have a BA from a US University?
If not, she may have problems getting a teaching visa in Korea. |
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CGriswald309B
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Busan, SK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I know the public schools are out but we don't really want long hours. We'd be happier making a little less and having more free time.
Yes, she was born and raised in the US. She's just not white. I keep telling her to stay out of the sun but she won't listen!  |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:14 am Post subject: |
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CGriswald309B wrote: |
Yeah, I know the public schools are out but we don't really want long hours. We'd be happier making a little less and having more free time.
Yes, she was born and raised in the US. She's just not white. I keep telling her to stay out of the sun but she won't listen!  |
Well then since she has a BA from a US University and is a US citizen...no worries.
Do you guys want to work at the same hakwon? If so I suggest this is made crystal clear to the recruiter(s) if you plan to work with one.
The 2-9 schedule is not unreasonable and would likely be at a children's Hakwon (with middle school students in the early evening and elementary school kids in the afternoon).
Hakwons who deal with adult students will have a split shift type of schedule with something from 7am to 10am and then start agaon from 4pm to 8/9pm. |
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CGriswald309B
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Busan, SK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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We did forget to make it clear that to the recruiters that it wasn't necessary that we got a job in the same hakwon. However, after a few emails we did remember to make that clear.
I'm also thinking that we started our job search waaaaaaaaay too early. We started in mid-April but we don't want to arrive in Korea unitl August.
Anway, thanks for the input.
Anyone else?  |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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most of the entire country goes on holiday in August, that's all. |
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CGriswald309B
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Busan, SK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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luckylady wrote: |
most of the entire country goes on holiday in August, that's all. |
Huh. I never even thought of that. But don't Koreans only get a few days off?
I remember working in Spain it was almost impossible to find work in August but I never expected it to be in issue in South Korea.
Live and learn I guess.
Thanks. |
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Troglodyte

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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Actually it's better if you don't work at the same hogwon. One of you can ask for the apartment and the other can ask for a housing allowance. Split the housing allowance and you'll earn a bit more.
If you both work at the same place, the owner will try to offer you a slightly bigger apartment (or at least what he TELLS you is larger than normal). |
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CGriswald309B
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Busan, SK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Troglodyte wrote: |
Actually it's better if you don't work at the same hogwon. One of you can ask for the apartment and the other can ask for a housing allowance. Split the housing allowance and you'll earn a bit more.
If you both work at the same place, the owner will try to offer you a slightly bigger apartment (or at least what he TELLS you is larger than normal). |
I know at the place I worked the couple got a one bedroom and we all had studios.
Is that common practice? |
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warmachinenkorea
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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luckylady wrote: |
most of the entire country goes on holiday in August, that's all. |
Really? I've been here almost 4 years and haven't noticed this.
OP just remember with a Hagwon you're gonna get about 10 days vacation.
There is a chain in Daegu called Moonkkang. They work 3:30-9:30 (not 100% but about 99%) and have a choice of more salary or more vacation.
http://mkeslteaching.com/what-we-offer
I'm certified but my wife is not. We work for EPIK and it's not too bad. |
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young_clinton
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Try to get 2,500,000 with your credentials. If nothing is good for you in Korea, you can get a job with a public school in Taiwan, pay is not quite as much though. |
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comm
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Troglodyte wrote: |
Actually it's better if you don't work at the same hogwon. One of you can ask for the apartment and the other can ask for a housing allowance. Split the housing allowance and you'll earn a bit more. |
Plus it would be near-impossible to vacation together if both of you are at the same hogwon, even if it's a large one. |
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CGriswald309B
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Busan, SK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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comm wrote: |
Troglodyte wrote: |
Actually it's better if you don't work at the same hogwon. One of you can ask for the apartment and the other can ask for a housing allowance. Split the housing allowance and you'll earn a bit more. |
Plus it would be near-impossible to vacation together if both of you are at the same hogwon, even if it's a large one. |
Damn. I never even thought of vacation. Thanks!
UPDATE: We did get an offer for a position in Seoul. 2:30 to 8:30, 2.3. Starts August 20th. However, the neighborhood doesn't seem all that happening.
Nos vemos... |
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The Sultan of Seoul
Joined: 17 Apr 2012 Location: right... behind.. YOU
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Are these demands reasonable (for 2 certified US teacher |
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CGriswald309B wrote: |
First off, I'm not in the mood to spell check or proofread this so whomever wants to poke fun at my grammar and/or spelling can just have at it.
Ok, here's the deal. My girlfriend and I are looking for work in Busan or Seoul. We are both experienced/certified ESL teachers from the US (she's taught 3 years and I've taught 4). I've also taught ESL in Spain and South Korea so I have international teaching experience. She does not. I'm white. She's Filipino-American.
So, we're asking for:
short work days, evening shift, something like 2-9
2.3+ (I'm thinking 2.3 is the max we'll get)
a decent neighborhood in Busan or Seoul
Do you think our demands are unreasonable?
As always, many thanks in advance! |
Have had better than that salary wise and same hours wise in both Seoul and Busan and only have a BA and online tefl cert. I have over 7 years in-country experience though. But a teacher at my last hakwan was a newbie certified teacher and was on 2.6mil and we worked 2pm - 9pm. |
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CGriswald309B
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Location: Busan, SK
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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@The Sultan of Seoul - Hook up brother up!
Seriously though, I've only seen that kind of money for loooooooooooooong hours. |
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