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rowdie3
Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Location: Itaewon, Seoul
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah!! That's good news. Sounds like a good school and one that is willing to think of the employees needs. Congrats!!
Hope your new adventure is lots of fun and that Korea treats you well.  |
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SeoulMan6
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Location: Gangwon-do
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad it worked out, but it's not always the case. I think other people should think hard about things before acting.
For one, is it really a 'dealbreaker'? If it is, then stand your ground. But for me, having a great job for one year is probably worth 2 weeks of housing inconvenience. Second, while nobody wants to be a 'doormat', the flip side is that you can easily be seen as someone who is a 'troublemaker' and someone who is 'inflexible'. And believe me, you don't want to start your time in Korea with that reputation. (Reputations in Korea are often quickly earned and difficult to erase.) There are two ways of seeing things.
Again, I'm glad things are cool, but other people with other employers might not be so lucky. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulMan6 wrote: |
I'm glad it worked out, but it's not always the case. I think other people should think hard about things before acting.
For one, is it really a 'dealbreaker'? If it is, then stand your ground. But for me, having a great job for one year is probably worth 2 weeks of housing inconvenience. Second, while nobody wants to be a 'doormat', the flip side is that you can easily be seen as someone who is a 'troublemaker' and someone who is 'inflexible'. And believe me, you don't want to start your time in Korea with that reputation. (Reputations in Korea are often quickly earned and difficult to erase.) There are two ways of seeing things.
Again, I'm glad things are cool, but other people with other employers might not be so lucky. |
Give them an inch and they will take a mile. And people wonder why wages haven't gone up lol. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| SeoulMan6 wrote: |
But for me, having a great job for one year is probably worth 2 weeks of housing inconvenience. Second, while nobody wants to be a 'doormat', the flip side is that you can easily be seen as someone who is a 'troublemaker' and someone who is 'inflexible'. And believe me, you don't want to start your time in Korea with that reputation. (Reputations in Korea are often quickly earned and difficult to erase.) There are two ways of seeing things.
Again, I'm glad things are cool, but other people with other employers might not be so lucky. |
the point is if an employer can't be flexible about how they treat a new employee just coming overseas for the first time, and to try and be sensitive about the huge upheaval in one's life that this represents, then there is not going to be a "great job for one year" period.
OP - good for you - have a great time and enjoy the adventure! |
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Tyshine
Joined: 04 Apr 2011
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Got to help out the fellow Chicagoan! Just be prepared for the fact that you are going from one of the world's most beautiful cities, to one that, uh, isn't.
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My GF and I recently moved from Chicago. She is a native of Englewood, and thankfully is no longer living there.
Anyway I wouldn't live with some random, or want my GF to. It has nothing to do with cheating, safety, or even sharing space, but I wouldn't want to work at a school that thinks it is ok to do something like that.
Good to hear it worked out . |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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Some low level administrator probably suggested the shared housing out of laziness, not greed.
In any case, I read somewhere that it's illegal for employers to require that men and women share accommodations (there's been some unfortunate and totally preventable incidents in company dorms here). |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="12ax7"]Some [b]low level administrator[/b] probably suggested the shared housing out of [b]laziness[/b], not greed.
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^This.
Quite often, these mixups and screw-ups are down to some shmuck administrator or secretary who doesn't care about your welfare in the slightest. He throws out the lowest offers and suggestions that are easiest for him, and he doesn't want to ruffle any feathers above him. Half the time he doesn't even ask his superior what he or she actually prefers, or inform them of any changes. He's counting on you just to accept his terms without argument.
Whenever these admin people inform you of something, take it with a grain of salt. It could change 5 minutes later because one thing they tend to not do here is share information with each other so you'll get a ton of mandates that suddenly aren't mandates at all. Also, remember that when they say they can't do something, they actually CAN in most cases, they are just CHOOSING not to, and hoping you'll fold.
Don't fold.
Your school actually sounds like it could be a good one, but still, don't be a pushover because as someone else said, "give them an inch and they'll take a mile". |
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