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Separating husband and wife for 2 weeks... (advice request)
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rowdie3



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Location: Itaewon, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah!! That's good news. Sounds like a good school and one that is willing to think of the employees needs. Congrats!!

Hope your new adventure is lots of fun and that Korea treats you well. Smile
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SeoulMan6



Joined: 27 Jul 2005
Location: Gangwon-do

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad it worked out, but it's not always the case. I think other people should think hard about things before acting.

For one, is it really a 'dealbreaker'? If it is, then stand your ground. But for me, having a great job for one year is probably worth 2 weeks of housing inconvenience. Second, while nobody wants to be a 'doormat', the flip side is that you can easily be seen as someone who is a 'troublemaker' and someone who is 'inflexible'. And believe me, you don't want to start your time in Korea with that reputation. (Reputations in Korea are often quickly earned and difficult to erase.) There are two ways of seeing things.

Again, I'm glad things are cool, but other people with other employers might not be so lucky.
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3DR



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulMan6 wrote:
I'm glad it worked out, but it's not always the case. I think other people should think hard about things before acting.

For one, is it really a 'dealbreaker'? If it is, then stand your ground. But for me, having a great job for one year is probably worth 2 weeks of housing inconvenience. Second, while nobody wants to be a 'doormat', the flip side is that you can easily be seen as someone who is a 'troublemaker' and someone who is 'inflexible'. And believe me, you don't want to start your time in Korea with that reputation. (Reputations in Korea are often quickly earned and difficult to erase.) There are two ways of seeing things.

Again, I'm glad things are cool, but other people with other employers might not be so lucky.


Give them an inch and they will take a mile. And people wonder why wages haven't gone up lol.
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luckylady



Joined: 30 Jan 2012
Location: u.s. of occupied territories

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulMan6 wrote:
But for me, having a great job for one year is probably worth 2 weeks of housing inconvenience. Second, while nobody wants to be a 'doormat', the flip side is that you can easily be seen as someone who is a 'troublemaker' and someone who is 'inflexible'. And believe me, you don't want to start your time in Korea with that reputation. (Reputations in Korea are often quickly earned and difficult to erase.) There are two ways of seeing things.

Again, I'm glad things are cool, but other people with other employers might not be so lucky.



the point is if an employer can't be flexible about how they treat a new employee just coming overseas for the first time, and to try and be sensitive about the huge upheaval in one's life that this represents, then there is not going to be a "great job for one year" period.


OP - good for you - have a great time and enjoy the adventure!
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Tyshine



Joined: 04 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modernist wrote:
Got to help out the fellow Chicagoan! Just be prepared for the fact that you are going from one of the world's most beautiful cities, to one that, uh, isn't.



My GF and I recently moved from Chicago. She is a native of Englewood, and thankfully is no longer living there.

Anyway I wouldn't live with some random, or want my GF to. It has nothing to do with cheating, safety, or even sharing space, but I wouldn't want to work at a school that thinks it is ok to do something like that.

Good to hear it worked out Smile.
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12ax7



Joined: 07 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some low level administrator probably suggested the shared housing out of laziness, not greed.

In any case, I read somewhere that it's illegal for employers to require that men and women share accommodations (there's been some unfortunate and totally preventable incidents in company dorms here).
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="12ax7"]Some [b]low level administrator[/b] probably suggested the shared housing out of [b]laziness[/b], not greed.
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^This.
Quite often, these mixups and screw-ups are down to some shmuck administrator or secretary who doesn't care about your welfare in the slightest. He throws out the lowest offers and suggestions that are easiest for him, and he doesn't want to ruffle any feathers above him. Half the time he doesn't even ask his superior what he or she actually prefers, or inform them of any changes. He's counting on you just to accept his terms without argument.

Whenever these admin people inform you of something, take it with a grain of salt. It could change 5 minutes later because one thing they tend to not do here is share information with each other so you'll get a ton of mandates that suddenly aren't mandates at all. Also, remember that when they say they can't do something, they actually CAN in most cases, they are just CHOOSING not to, and hoping you'll fold.

Don't fold.

Your school actually sounds like it could be a good one, but still, don't be a pushover because as someone else said, "give them an inch and they'll take a mile".
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