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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: Requesting 'proof of employment' from a former employer. |
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I need proof of employment from a former employer. How should I go about getting this? Most importantly, can they refuse to give me one? I think my employer from a few years back had informed immigration that I left the job much earlier than I did. It is now causing me some headaches with immigration. They're saying I overstayed my visa. I did not. So I want a 'proof of employment' from my older employer. If he was indeed up to no good, he might not want to provide me with this paperwork. Can he deny it to me, or is he obligated to provide it.
Thanks in advance.
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nora
Joined: 14 Apr 2012
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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they are obligated by law to give it to you. just go it and tell them you need it. they can charge a reasonable fee (500 won or so) for it. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Nora. Can I request it by mail or do I need to go in person? I don't live anywhere near my old school. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Smithington wrote: |
Thanks Nora. Can I request it by mail or do I need to go in person? I don't live anywhere near my old school. |
Do you honestly expect them to mail you something (even if they are required by law to issue it)?
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scorpiocandy
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:25 am Post subject: |
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I needed proof of employment from a place where I worked in 2004/2005 and they refused for some bogus reason. I called the labour board and two people told me they couldn't force the previous employer if it was more than 3 years ago.
This was in January this year that they told me that. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't the stamps in your passport elaborate your comings and goings clearly enough for immigration? That's assuming they don't have the relevant info in the system... |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:00 am Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
Smithington wrote: |
Thanks Nora. Can I request it by mail or do I need to go in person? I don't live anywhere near my old school. |
Do you honestly expect them to mail you something (even if they are required by law to issue it)?
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Is it such an unreasonable request? I'm working full time in Seoul. My previous job was near Daegu. Am I expected to hike down South for something that can be thrown into a mailbox? Am I being unreasonable here?...Also does anyone else know about the "3 year rule" mentioned by an earlier poster. Is that in fact a rule, or something that some bored kimmi employee made up on the spot? Personally, I think that if an employer can provide a proof of employment letter but nevertheless refuses to, it suggests to me that she's been cooking the books. Why else (besides being a jerk) would she refuse such a simple request? What are they afraid of disclosing? |
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Wildbore
Joined: 17 Jun 2009
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Smithington wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
Smithington wrote: |
Thanks Nora. Can I request it by mail or do I need to go in person? I don't live anywhere near my old school. |
Do you honestly expect them to mail you something (even if they are required by law to issue it)?
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Is it such an unreasonable request? I'm working full time in Seoul. My previous job was near Daegu. Am I expected to hike down South for something that can be thrown into a mailbox? Am I being unreasonable here?...Also does anyone else know about the "3 year rule" mentioned by an earlier poster. Is that in fact a rule, or something that some bored kimmi employee made up on the spot? Personally, I think that if an employer can provide a proof of employment letter but nevertheless refuses to, it suggests to me that she's been cooking the books. Why else (besides being a jerk) would she refuse such a simple request? What are they afraid of disclosing? |
Firstly, yes, it is such an unreasonable request. This is Korea, a large and unreasonable bribe must be placed in the envelope with the request to bother your former manager with such tedius and boring document preperation, as well as to compensate for the hugely inflated price of postage and the gas for going to the post office.
Secondly, kimmi has nothing even remotely to do with the 3 year requirement. Labor law enforcement is part of the ministry of labor (not justice/immigration). The 3 year limitation is the law the Korean legislature passed. Don't like it, blame the politicians. |
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Skippy

Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:57 am Post subject: |
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It is not a unreasonable request. The problem is "why should they?". What is in it for them.
Here is a thought experiment. Smithington can you please since you are in Seoul can you go to the International Store in Itaewon and buy me some Root Beer. I transfer you the money for only the Root Beer and Shipping? So can you do this for me?
The answer is likely no - the question, I am nobody important to you. The same with the school you are somebody from (?) years ago that maybe if lucky one person remembers. You do not want to waste the time to traveling for the root beer then to the post office. It could likely eat up an afternoon. Once again why waste the time typing up a letter and finding details and paperwork from 7 or 8 years ago. Easier to say no. Another reason why you will likely not help get me my root beer is I am only paying for the root beer and shipping - no extra money for you. Same with the letter - somebody has to do the work for no good reason (to them).
If you want the letter here is what I would recommend to do.
Make it worth their while. Provide an incentive from money, favor, a good reference of a possible teacher, etc. Just asking and demanding is not going to work very well.
Make it easy for them. Dig up any and all information about your past in relation to the school. The document you want is a "Certificate of Employment." There is info about the format and info need for it on the board and the net. So make it, fill in what you can, print it off, send it to them. If the all the ex boss has to do it sign it, stamp in, and put it in an envelope, and hand it to a delivery person it will get done. Which would you prefer to do push a button once or push a button a thousand times over a day?
Good Luck
Edited because I mixed two posts up a little. Wrong dates and years. |
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Smithington
Joined: 14 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Wildbore wrote: |
Firstly, yes, it is such an unreasonable request. This is Korea, a large and unreasonable bribe must be placed in the envelope with the request to bother your former manager with such tedius and boring document preperation. |
Silly me. I forgot where I was.  |
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plchron
Joined: 26 Feb 2011 Location: Korea
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asdfghjkl
Joined: 21 Jun 2011
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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I had to get one recently to get a higher pay grade. I just called my boss from the hagwon I worked at and asked her to send a letter saying "asdfghjkl worked at blahblahblah from (date) to (date)," and nobody gave me any guff on either end. The recruiter I got a job through even offered to contact my old boss for me. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it should be noted that this document isn't lengthy or challenging to draw up. It doesn't contain any secretive information. It just gives standard information about you and the dates you worked.
The only difficulty should be living through the brief whinge immediately after requesting it because you asked somebody to do something. Refusal to give it is out of spite and nothing more. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Smithington wrote: |
Thanks Nora. Can I request it by mail or do I need to go in person? I don't live anywhere near my old school. |
My old school mailed my proof of employment to my recruiter in Seoul. So, no, it's not unreasonable. |
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