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crisdean
Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City
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@No_hite_pls
all I was saying was that comparing two very different countries with very different demographics is unfair. I'm sorry you find that concept hard to grasp. If you want to compare the USA with China or India that's at least fair since that have more comparable demographics. I have no vested interest in the US, I'm not American, and I don't really care if you hate it.
It's like comparing crime in Los Angeles (3.8 million) to crime in Arviat (1800), sure you can spout per capita facts 'til your blue in the face, it doesn't prove much when you're comparing a huge multi-ethnic community of millions to an outpost of handful scientists and Inuit families. Personally I feel this is the same difference between the US (300 million) and Liechtenstein (36,000). Notice that by percent of population Arviat is 0.04% of LA and Liechtenstein is 0.01% of the USA's population. Now if you still think your per capita data means something, by all means continue talking out of your ass. As for me... I'm done with this conversation. |
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No_hite_pls
Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:14 am Post subject: |
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If you want to compare the USA with China or India that's at least fair since that have more comparable demographics. I have no vested interest in the US, I'm not American, and I don't really care if you hate it. |
BTW bud, I love America and I am American. I just hate how the neo-cons/republicans have destroyed it. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| crisdean wrote: |
If you want to compare the USA with China or India that's at least fair since that have more comparable demographics. I have no vested interest in the US, I'm not American, and I don't really care if you hate it. |
BTW bud, I love America and I am American. I just hate how the neo-cons/republicans have destroyed it. |
Libs have ruined America. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| crisdean wrote: |
If you want to compare the USA with China or India that's at least fair since that have more comparable demographics. I have no vested interest in the US, I'm not American, and I don't really care if you hate it. |
BTW bud, I love America and I am American. I just hate how the neo-cons/republicans have destroyed it. |
Libs have ruined America. |
A political system that emphasizes short-term fixes over long-term successes has ruined America. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| crisdean wrote: |
If you want to compare the USA with China or India that's at least fair since that have more comparable demographics. I have no vested interest in the US, I'm not American, and I don't really care if you hate it. |
BTW bud, I love America and I am American. I just hate how the neo-cons/republicans have destroyed it. |
Libs have ruined America. |
A political system that emphasizes short-term fixes over long-term successes has ruined America. |
I think when the people found out they can draw money from the country's treasury in exchange for votes (Democrats) it ruined America. The Dems have created a hand-out entitled voting base and it is collapsing the economic foundation (Obama) of the country. The Repubs aren't angels either, they make backroom deals too, but the Dems it seems have gone out of their way with this last regime to bring America down and don't even try to hide it. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:16 am Post subject: |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| crisdean wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| In other not all linked news, Liechtenstein has one lowest disparity between rich and poor in the industrialized world. The US has one of the highest. |
Yes, because comparing the US and Liechtenstein is perfectly legit. The US is the 4th largest country in the world by land mass, and one of the largest by population. Liechtenstein is smaller than Rhode Island (roughly 5% of the size and 3.5% of the population). But yeah, it definitely a fair comparison. Also consider that there are no large urban centres in Liechtenstein (Vaduz, the largest municipality, is around 5000 people) statistically you tend to find more crime occurs in the large urban areas of the US. Please stop comparing apples to oranges, sure their both fruit and a good sources of vitamin C, but the comparison starts to wear a bit thin beyond that. |
Well, population density has very little to do with it. The US has more people in jail that China and India, the two most populated countries in the world last time I checked (in fact, the US has a larger prison population than that of all countries in the world combined).
Some would blame the prison industrial complex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4q7p3ME95E |
USA! USA! USA!
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| A political system that emphasizes short-term fixes over long-term successes has ruined America. |
Indeed. Congress sucks. It isn't a Dem vs. Republican thing. Dodge7, the GOP (and Bush) passed a prescription drug bill that was a bigger fiscal boondoggle than anything Obama's done. At least the Dems aren't as hypocritical as the Republicans!  The only reason Republican politicians have become defecit hawks now (minus a few non-hypocrites such as Coburn, who always has harped on about it) is they don't control the WH or Senate. If they were to win control of Congress and the WH in November, they wouldn't be any more frugal with gov't spending than the current administration, they'd just blow money on different things. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I think when the people found out they can draw money from the country's treasury in exchange for votes (Democrats) it ruined America. The Dems have created a hand-out entitled voting base and it is collapsing the economic foundation (Obama) of the country. The Repubs aren't angels either, they make backroom deals too, but the Dems it seems have gone out of their way with this last regime to bring America down and don't even try to hide it. |
You seem to be conveniently forgetting the two wars that the last guy started. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| crisdean wrote: |
| No_hite_pls wrote: |
| In other not all linked news, Liechtenstein has one lowest disparity between rich and poor in the industrialized world. The US has one of the highest. |
Yes, because comparing the US and Liechtenstein is perfectly legit. The US is the 4th largest country in the world by land mass, and one of the largest by population. Liechtenstein is smaller than Rhode Island (roughly 5% of the size and 3.5% of the population). But yeah, it definitely a fair comparison. Also consider that there are no large urban centres in Liechtenstein (Vaduz, the largest municipality, is around 5000 people) statistically you tend to find more crime occurs in the large urban areas of the US. Please stop comparing apples to oranges, sure their both fruit and a good sources of vitamin C, but the comparison starts to wear a bit thin beyond that. |
Well, population density has very little to do with it. The US has more people in jail that China and India, the two most populated countries in the world last time I checked (in fact, the US has a larger prison population than that of all countries in the world combined).
Some would blame the prison industrial complex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4q7p3ME95E |
USA! USA! USA!
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| A political system that emphasizes short-term fixes over long-term successes has ruined America. |
Indeed. Congress sucks. It isn't a Dem vs. Republican thing. Dodge7, the GOP (and Bush) passed a prescription drug bill that was a bigger fiscal boondoggle than anything Obama's done. At least the Dems aren't as hypocritical as the Republicans! The only reason Republican politicians have become defecit hawks now (minus a few non-hypocrites such as Coburn, who always has harped on about it) is they don't control the WH or Senate. If they were to win control of Congress and the WH in November, they wouldn't be any more frugal with gov't spending than the current administration, they'd just blow money on different things. |
LOL! Obama has spent more on pure crap in the name of "stimulating" that couldn't even jump start a car, and has SPENT MORE money than ALL previous Presidents COMBINED.
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I think when the people found out they can draw money from the country's treasury in exchange for votes (Democrats) it ruined America. The Dems have created a hand-out entitled voting base and it is collapsing the economic foundation (Obama) of the country. The Repubs aren't angels either, they make backroom deals too, but the Dems it seems have gone out of their way with this last regime to bring America down and don't even try to hide it. |
You seem to be conveniently forgetting the two wars that the last guy started. |
we were attacked. If he didn't go to war, I'd push for impeaching him. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I think when the people found out they can draw money from the country's treasury in exchange for votes (Democrats) it ruined America. The Dems have created a hand-out entitled voting base and it is collapsing the economic foundation (Obama) of the country. The Repubs aren't angels either, they make backroom deals too, but the Dems it seems have gone out of their way with this last regime to bring America down and don't even try to hide it. |
You seem to be conveniently forgetting the two wars that the last guy started. |
we were attacked. If he didn't go to war, I'd push for impeaching him. |
Stop the presses! We were attacked by Iraq? Really? Please, do tell.
Seriously though, Iraq didn't attack us. |
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Dodge7
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I think when the people found out they can draw money from the country's treasury in exchange for votes (Democrats) it ruined America. The Dems have created a hand-out entitled voting base and it is collapsing the economic foundation (Obama) of the country. The Repubs aren't angels either, they make backroom deals too, but the Dems it seems have gone out of their way with this last regime to bring America down and don't even try to hide it. |
You seem to be conveniently forgetting the two wars that the last guy started. |
we were attacked. If he didn't go to war, I'd push for impeaching him. |
Stop the presses! We were attacked by Iraq? Really? Please, do tell.
Seriously though, Iraq didn't attack us. |
Saddam had it coming, he defied the UN and we had to take preemptive measures so he didn't nuke all of Israel or the US. He was a crazy man, he could have done it. That was why we went in...why we stayed, I don't know. We should have gotten out a lot sooner than we did. I'm not ruling our ulterior motives for going into Iraq, afterall, ALL politians are crooks. That's my view, if you don't agree, sorry. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| You're entitled to your opinion, but last time I checked, you need nukes in order to nuke someone... Regardless, the fact that Iraq never attacked the US really pokes a hole in the "we were attacked first" garbage. |
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adzee1
Joined: 22 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I think when the people found out they can draw money from the country's treasury in exchange for votes (Democrats) it ruined America. The Dems have created a hand-out entitled voting base and it is collapsing the economic foundation (Obama) of the country. The Repubs aren't angels either, they make backroom deals too, but the Dems it seems have gone out of their way with this last regime to bring America down and don't even try to hide it. |
You seem to be conveniently forgetting the two wars that the last guy started. |
we were attacked. If he didn't go to war, I'd push for impeaching him. |
Stop the presses! We were attacked by Iraq? Really? Please, do tell.
Seriously though, Iraq didn't attack us. |
Saddam had it coming, he defied the UN and we had to take preemptive measures so he didn't nuke all of Israel or the US. He was a crazy man, he could have done it. That was why we went in...why we stayed, I don't know. We should have gotten out a lot sooner than we did. I'm not ruling our ulterior motives for going into Iraq, afterall, ALL politians are crooks. That's my view, if you don't agree, sorry. |
Based on your logic Dodge there are many other leaders " who have it coming to them" but did George Bush invade North Korea / Sudan / Somalia / Libya / Iran / Syria / Cuba ? NO.. Please explain why ?
You claim Saddam is a crazed man and I agree 100%, I also think that George Bush is equally if not more crazed to be honest.
As someone else mentioned, Iraq did not attack you and they did not have the capability to " nuke Israel or the US" as you claim. |
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slothrop
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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