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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:08 am Post subject: "Why don't you smile more?" |
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"This is a kids school and if the teacher smiles then the parents will think you are a good teacher."
"Look at John. Maybe he isn't the best teacher but everybody loves his smile. Why don't you be more like him"
At my current school I put up with my share of criticism. It could be about the kids's behaviour in my classes, not doing team building exercises in my free time etc.
When I receive this criticism it just makes me so mad. I don't deal with criticism well. It just pisses me off.
How do you deal with criticism? Especially when the criticism of not smiling makes you just want to wear your angry face even more.  |
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Nismo
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:34 am Post subject: Re: "Why don't you smile more?" |
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creeper1 wrote: |
"This is a kids school and if the teacher smiles then the parents will think you are a good teacher."
"Look at John. Maybe he isn't the best teacher but everybody loves his smile. Why don't you be more like him"
At my current school I put up with my share of criticism. It could be about the kids's behaviour in my classes, not doing team building exercises in my free time etc.
When I receive this criticism it just makes me so mad. I don't deal with criticism well. It just pisses me off.
How do you deal with criticism? Especially when the criticism of not smiling makes you just want to wear your angry face even more.  |
You're teaching children. Children are naturally superficial. They prefer the moronic, skinny, beautiful teacher over the brilliant, fat, ugly teacher (ask my daughter and she will confirm this). They are asking you to be charismatic. If that's not possible for you, then perhaps switch to a different demographic?
And, as a father, I would agree with them. Personally, I don't like teaching children, which is why I don't. But I expect the teacher that teaches my daughter to be damn well satisfied with their position. |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:42 am Post subject: Re: "Why don't you smile more?" |
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creeper1 wrote: |
How do you deal with criticism? Especially when the criticism of not smiling makes you just want to wear your angry face even more.  |
I appreciate criticism that helps me do my job better. In fact, I have to push my coteachers to give me advice. They know they have more experience teaching than I do, but either they think I'm amazing already or (more likely) they're too worried about me being over-sensitive.
Fortunately, I've only had jobs teaching in Korea. But it seems like your job is to be foreign and make kids/parents happy. It's actually good that you're basically being told this up front. Embrace it and have fun with it. |
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slothrop
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: |
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jfromtheway
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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I also hate criticism, but I think in this country it's best to smile and say "OK, I will do better" when there is a problem, though I guess it depends on the situation. I had an open class last week and was fretting over it majorly. Luckily, only two moms per class showed up for the first three and none showed up for the last two. I had these kids trained like dogs for that monkey show. I got five stars from everyone, but there was one woman who speaks no English who dumped on me, so I'm sure I'll be answering for that for the next week or so. When someone tells me I'm doing something wrong I'm generally apt enough to be able to point out something they do equally or more wrong. In my experience, at my hagwon everyone gave a F and at my public school no one gives a F. I prefer the latter. I don't completely suck at teaching now but I'm in a situation where the kids liking me is prioritized over my English teaching abilities. If I teach more and don't let them destroy fake things on their phones, they like me less, and I lose. So, I wear a happy face, nod, smile, then bow out and go home. I do whatever will strengthen my chances of keeping my easy ass job, and I teach a lot more than the last guy did. Korean moms are an unsettled bunch of pesky parasites. Just be the white monkey, go home, and forget about it. |
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detonate
Joined: 16 Dec 2011
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:19 am Post subject: |
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오 썩소 배리 배리 굿~~~ |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Bascially teaching kids includes making learning fun for them. This can be done by using laughter and humour as that will typically engage the kids in the lesson.
As doe generally dealing with criticism...well...sorry but you bets get used to criticism as it is part of all jobs! The thing about criticism is that when it is constructive it can actually help you improve. Straight out negative comments with nothing else add nothing however those can be frustrating. At the end of the day you just need to learn to roll with the punches. Getting angry about it won't solve a thing. |
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luckylady
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Location: u.s. of occupied territories
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: |
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believe me, being from Texas originally, there is absolutely no barriers to smiling and being pissed off at the same time! and once you learn, it can actually be quite an advantage to those who would like to see you scowl.
haven't you ever heard the "smile when you say that pardner" from old Westerns? exactly. chin up, look square at those students and tell them exactly how you feel about them, and smile until your teeth hurt, your muscles ache and your eyes bug out. then top it off once in a while with a big wink.
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Its important to smile because positive examples are better than negative criticisms, which according to the OP, he is not too fond of.
Your outside emotions are reflective of your inner feelings. If you aren't happy or don't "believe" in what you are teaching, and that gets carried up to your face, then that will be perceived by the students.
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At my current school I put up with my share of criticism. It could be about the kids's behaviour in my classes, not doing team building exercises in my free time etc.
When I receive this criticism it just makes me so mad. I don't deal with criticism well. It just pisses me off.
How do you deal with criticism? Especially when the criticism of not smiling makes you just want to wear your angry face even more. |
What people need to understand, and our society is so poor at teaching, is that criticism and dealing with it is part of wisdom. Sadly, we focus more on cleverness and wit, and have relegated wisdom to the back burner.
Wisdom embraces correction. Wisdom teaches humbleness. Wisdom reminds us that we aren't as important as we think we are.
Instead of coming up with clever ways in which the person is wrong, take what they say and see if it leads you to being the kind of person you want to be. Of course, before all of this you have to figure out what kind of person you want to be.
What kind of person do you want to be? |
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sml7285
Joined: 26 Apr 2012
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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luckylady wrote: |
believe me, being from Texas originally, there is absolutely no barriers to smiling and being pissed off at the same time! and once you learn, it can actually be quite an advantage to those who would like to see you scowl.
haven't you ever heard the "smile when you say that pardner" from old Westerns? exactly. chin up, look square at those students and tell them exactly how you feel about them, and smile until your teeth hurt, your muscles ache and your eyes bug out. then top it off once in a while with a big wink.
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Haha I used to coach swimmers in the states and I was told the same thing - to smile more. I asked my boss if he wanted me to tone down my coaching or to stop yelling at swimmers when I felt it was warranted and I was told that was not the case. The parents actually liked that I was strict on the kids and pushed them to their limits, but felt that I should smile more... go figure. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I dislike this particular criticism but I got it a lot more back in the US (and teaching kids in Korea). I just can't put on a smile and look at all natural, I just look weird. Well maybe that's always the case lol
Anyway, I don't think you need to run around like a grinning idiot, but if they're commenting about it then students have probably said you seem a bit intimidating or something. I wasn't good at *teaching* kids so no advice but it's worth asking around for pointers. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I smile a lot in my elementary school job as I get a kick out of the kids.
I have to laugh though at Koreans telling a foreigner to smile as this is about the least happy looking country I've ever seen (maybe in a tie w/ Budapest which ranks, I think, last next to Korea for life satisfaction in the developed world). |
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cedarseoul
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Location: nowon-gu
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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What I have found frustrating (but have more or less grown to accept over the past ~4 years) is the inconsistency. Today, teacher is too scary and should smile more. Tomorrow, teacher should be very strict and make the children learn. On Friday, teacher should have more games and activities to make class interesting. On Monday, no--teacher should give a thoughtful lecture, and the students should take notes. On Tuesday, lecturing is bad because the children are young. Have many fun and diverse activities.
Etc.
I think this is perhaps more of an issue at hagwon than at PS. IDK. Instead of developing reasonable/sensible policies and enforcing them consistently, the entire handbook gets rewritten every time a mom calls in.
But such is the nature of the game. |
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tideout
Joined: 12 Dec 2010
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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cedarseoul wrote: |
What I have found frustrating (but have more or less grown to accept over the past ~4 years) is the inconsistency. Today, teacher is too scary and should smile more. Tomorrow, teacher should be very strict and make the children learn. On Friday, teacher should have more games and activities to make class interesting. On Monday, no--teacher should give a thoughtful lecture, and the students should take notes. On Tuesday, lecturing is bad because the children are young. Have many fun and diverse activities.
Etc.
I think this is perhaps more of an issue at hagwon than at PS. IDK. Instead of developing reasonable/sensible policies and enforcing them consistently, the entire handbook gets rewritten every time a mom calls in.
But such is the nature of the game. |
I'm in a PS. Couldn't agree more. Whatever way the winds blowing that day. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010 Location: Victoria, Canada.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Don't take the job so seriously. Really. You are only the kids teacher, you aren't their parents, you're only teaching them maybe one hour a day or whatever. Don't think you are so important in their lives. They probably have 10 teachers. |
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