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Renewing a passport without a guarantor (Canadian)

 
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grnmle



Joined: 13 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Renewing a passport without a guarantor (Canadian) Reply with quote

I just phone our embassy in Seoul to set up an appointment for next week. However, there was no one in at 11:00 to answer my question about what information I need to have for the form you have to fill out if you don't know a doctor, lawyer etc. in Korea.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think I need to have the information for my past 5 years of employment history, along with where I have resided. And, in addition I need to have 2 more references. I just want to make sure because. I am coming up to Seoul from Daegu and I have to take a day off work, so it is already a pretty expensive endeavor.

If there is anyone that has recently had their passport renewed in Seoul who can tell me, I'd appreciate it.
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Canadian Embassy does periodically visit Daegu. They sent me an email about a visit last month.

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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Renewing a passport without a guarantor (Canadian) Reply with quote

grnmle wrote:
I just phone our embassy in Seoul to set up an appointment for next week. However, there was no one in at 11:00 to answer my question about what information I need to have for the form you have to fill out if you don't know a doctor, lawyer etc. in Korea.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think I need to have the information for my past 5 years of employment history, along with where I have resided. And, in addition I need to have 2 more references. I just want to make sure because. I am coming up to Seoul from Daegu and I have to take a day off work, so it is already a pretty expensive endeavor.

If there is anyone that has recently had their passport renewed in Seoul who can tell me, I'd appreciate it.


You are correct.

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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to contact them before heading down. They are getting really tight about having a guarantor. I went down with all the docs in hand without a guarantor and they asked me to go out and try again to find someone. I notice while I was there...two others were also asked to go to try and find someone to be their guarantor.

They also take dentists and signing officials of banks. I went to my daughter's dentist to find his office closed and I told them I tried...then I could submit the in lieu of a guarantor form and finally complete my application.


Now, I have been in Korea for quite some time, so they felt it strange that I didn't have any contact with any official enough to be a guarantor. I had one, but he passed away last year.

If you are traveling, then send an email before you go....or one last look for someone. They didn't really care that I didn't go to that dentist, just that he had seen me and could identify my picture.

Also, make sure the new two references that you pick are available to be contacted. They contacted mine the day after I made my application. One guy didn't answer his phone and they had to keep calling. It was a Seoul number and he doesn't usually answer calls unless he knows the number. Funny thing, they asked both references the colour of my eyes...these guys have known me for over 5 years....and neither guy got that or my weight correct....
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Who's Your Daddy?



Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in Incheon wrote:

They also take dentists and signing officials of banks.

They didn't really care that I didn't go to that dentist, just that he had seen me and could identify my picture.


What is the bank signing officer? Is it the teller I deal with, or the old guy in the back drinking coffee?

I had my dentist do it, but he's treated me for over two years. The requirements state the the guarantor know you for over two years.
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giraffe



Joined: 07 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I renewed my canadian passport a few months ago.

You dont need a guarantor. If you do have one it faster to get through the paper work. If not, no big deal. Theres a Form you can fill out at the embassy if you dont have a guarantor. .

http://www.ppt.gc.ca/info/132.aspx?lang=eng

Its the "Declaration in lieu of guarantor". Embassy will act as your guanrantor HOWEVER you will need 2 extra references Which CANNOT be the same references as your passport application. This caught me off guard because i only had 3 references and had to quickly get the info of a fourth one. THey will absolutely call the references. In my case they called them literally 30 minutes after i left the embassy. THey also ask them a bunch of questions like your height, your weight , your eye colours , your job , last them they saw you ECT soo make sure your references "know" you...

The Declaration in lieu of guarantor Costs extra money. I forget the exact amount but i think it was 75-100$ more!!!!!

Also yes , make sure you have all info pertaining to where you lived with dates for the last 5 years and also employers and all their info for the last 5 years... Again this caught me off guard i was only expecting for the last 2-3 years...

It took about 2 weeks to get the passport back in the mail... good luck.
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thunderbird



Joined: 18 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they just did ten year passports like other countrys it would b so much esier
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wings



Joined: 09 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:08 pm    Post subject: YES Reply with quote

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If they just did ten year passports like other countrys it would b so much esier


I agree, maybe we should start sending letters to our MP's. A few hundred letters might help get the ball rolling and get us on par with other countries. [/quote]
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in Incheon wrote:
You might want to contact them before heading down. They are getting really tight about having a guarantor. I went down with all the docs in hand without a guarantor and they asked me to go out and try again to find someone. I notice while I was there...two others were also asked to go to try and find someone to be their guarantor.


You can also tell her to just do her job. They cannot refuse you the choice of a guarantor or the declaration in lieu. If they do, complain farther up the food chain.

thunderbird wrote:
If they just did ten year passports like other countrys it would b so much easier


Coming in 2013 according to Passport Canada.

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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Scott in Incheon wrote:
You might want to contact them before heading down. They are getting really tight about having a guarantor. I went down with all the docs in hand without a guarantor and they asked me to go out and try again to find someone. I notice while I was there...two others were also asked to go to try and find someone to be their guarantor.


You can also tell her to just do her job. They cannot refuse you the choice of a guarantor or the declaration in lieu. If they do, complain farther up the food chain.

thunderbird wrote:
If they just did ten year passports like other countrys it would b so much easier


Coming in 2013 according to Passport Canada.

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Since this is Canada and things do tend to move slower in the public domain...

On 7 April 2010, Passport Canada announced that in 2012, Canada will begin issuing electronic passports, or ePassports, to all its citizens. Passport Canada states that "the use of ePassports will allow Canada to follow international standards in the field of passport security to protect the nation's borders and maintain the ease of international travel that Canadians currently enjoy. At the same time, Passport Canada will start offering the option of a 10-year validity period as well as the current 5-year validity period."[31]

Subsequently in September 2011, Passport Canada announced that the electronic passport will be ready by the end of 2012, the passport is currently under parliamentary tabling, or phase 3 of the plan according to Passport Canada. The organization stated the significant delay was due to increased in passport application for revised entry policies to the United States in late 2000s and a supposedly lengthy consultation process. This has further cast doubts on introducing the biometric passport on time


We renewed our passeports (son and I) this past winter and we were issued 5-year passports. This was however done in Canada where we live.

Latest gov info on this issue:

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Pending parliamentary review and completion of the regulatory process, the new fee structure and the 10-year ePassport should come into effect in 2013. The new fees will not take effect until the adoption of the ePassport is complete, and the option of 5- or 10-year validity is offered to adult passport applicants.

At this time, it is too early to provide the exact date when the 10-year ePassport and accompanying new fees will become available, other than to say that it will likely be in the spring of 2013.


Lots of answers here: http://www.ppt.gc.ca/support/faq.aspx?lang=eng&id=q820

and here for expats:

http://www.pptc.gc.ca/info/form.aspx?lang=eng&region=international
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