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		banjois
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| All of my kindergarten kids come in every morning doing the dance and singing. I think it's wildly inappropriate (and it's grates on my nerves like you wouldn't believe), but apparently their parents don't.... | 
			 
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		The Cosmic Hum
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:02 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Last I checked PSY's virus had gone to 264 million hits. Longway to go before catching Justin the Beaver's 770 million. | 
	 
 
 
 
The Beaver's video has been up for over 2 1/2 years.
 
Psy...2 1/2 months.
 
 
So...yeah...you might have to wait a week or two...but it'll get there...no doubt about it.
 
 
Dance monkeys dance. | 
			 
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		edwardcatflap
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:21 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | I asked my 5th grade class: What is 어구? (phrase, expression). Then I asked: Is '오빤 강남 스타일', an 어구? Should've seen the face of disapproval from the co-t.  | 
	 
 
 
 
Why? Because you were speaking Korean in the English lesson? | 
			 
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		JustinC
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I love this song! It's brilliant! We should all be doing it on the way to work, the way home, when waiting for a bus etc. | 
			 
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		andrewchon
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:33 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | I asked my 5th grade class: What is 어구? (phrase, expression). Then I asked: Is '오빤 강남 스타일', an 어구? Should've seen the face of disapproval from the co-t.  | 
	 
 
 
 
Why? Because you were speaking Korean in the English lesson? | 
	 
 
 
 
I'm fighting a losing battle of tryng run immersion style lessons. First I teach them english used in learning: read this, write that, what does it mean, etc. I had to pull back a little after students responded with a full-scale rebellion. TEE? I've asked them: Do you use violin to study when you go to a piano class? No, but they are adamant that they will not give up speaking Korean in English classes. 
 
I think the disapproval was about using adult-content in a pre-pubescent classroom. | 
			 
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		theleon
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:02 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | newb wrote: | 
	 
	
	  The thread title "Oppa Gangnam Style!" should be changed to:
 
 
Oppa'n Gangnam Style!
 
 
It's not 오빠 강남 스타일.  It's 오빤 (as in 오빠는) 강남 스타일. | 
	 
 
 
 
I will have to check into this. Everyone I have taked to says Oppa not Oppan. I have been hearing this a lot from other foreigners but I am going to ask the Koreans. | 
			 
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		jammo
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:55 am    Post subject:  | 
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				오빠 + 는(topic marker) = 오빤
 
 
aka I'M gangnam style | 
			 
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		Jake_Kim
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | jammo wrote: | 
	 
	
	  오빠 + 는(topic marker) = 오빤
 
 
aka I'M gangnam style | 
	 
 
 
 
I approve this message with good authority.
 
 
'는' is never a verb itself as opposed to 'to be,' yet the way abbreviation works in spoken Korean is almost identical in this case.
 
 
Similarly, '나는(I am)' becomes '난(I'm)' and '너는(You are)' becomes '넌(You're)'. 오빠 in this particular context is simply 'I' in third-person, an expression reserved for where the listener is a (close or intimate) younger female. Hence 'I'm Gangnam style' is the best translation. | 
			 
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		Steelrails
 
  
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		The Cosmic Hum
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  오빠 + 는(topic marker) = 오빤
 
 
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Many who have no idea of Korean hear - Open Condom Style.
 
Could very well be the reason for it. | 
			 
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		jammo
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  The thread title "Oppa Gangnam Style!" should be changed to:
 
 
Oppa'n Gangnam Style!
 
 
It's not 오빠 강남 스타일.  It's 오빤 (as in 오빠는) 강남 스타일. | 
	 
 
 
 
I will have to check into this. Everyone I have taked to says Oppa not Oppan. I have been hearing this a lot from other foreigners but I am going to ask the Koreans. | 
	 
 
 
 
I wouldn't listen to them re: Korean. 
 
Case in point - the misuse of 외국(인) | 
			 
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		Died By Bear
 
  
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		andrewchon
 
  
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		jvalmer
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 5:32 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Jake_Kim wrote: | 
	 
	
	  
 
	  | jammo wrote: | 
	 
	
	  오빠 + 는(topic marker) = 오빤
 
 
aka I'M gangnam style | 
	 
 
 
 
I approve this message with good authority.
 
 
'는' is never a verb itself as opposed to 'to be,' yet the way abbreviation works in spoken Korean is almost identical in this case.
 
 
Similarly, '나는(I am)' becomes '난(I'm)' and '너는(You are)' becomes '넌(You're)'. 오빠 in this particular context is simply 'I' in third-person, an expression reserved for where the listener is a (close or intimate) younger female. Hence 'I'm Gangnam style' is the best translation. | 
	 
 
 
It's a contraction, just like in English (ex. I am --> I'm), informal and not used in formal writing. There are a lot of them and it takes a while getting used to hearing it. | 
			 
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