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cavarsan
Joined: 27 Jun 2012
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 Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:14 am Post subject: GETTING FIRED!! TTOMPAZ HELP!! |
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Making it as short as possible:
I have an F6 and have been working at this kindergarten for 10 months.
The agency pays me, not the kindergarten and i am taxed 3/3%.
When i applied for the job they asked me if i could teach for more than a year and i said yes but we initially signed a one year contract which ends end of may.
Issue:
Agency emailed me yesterday saying this:
Hi, the school may reduce the number of classes from march so would you like our help in finding a new job?
They didnt explain anything or fire me properly, nor have they given me a one month notice.
My questions are:
do labor laws apply to me (i think i am a private contractor)?
What is your advice for me TTompaz?
Should i fight for my rights?
Does the kindergarten have any responsibilities with me?
can they fire me like that?
P.S ive been a good teacher and the school has been happy with me so this is not a matter of me not being suitable for the job.
thanks a lot.... |
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comm
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: Re: GETTING FIRED!! TTOMPAZ HELP!! |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
Agency emailed me yesterday saying this:
Hi, the school may reduce the number of classes from march so would you like our help in finding a new job? |
Agency? Who?
What does your contract say? Are you paid by the class, or a fixed salary? If it's the former, this seems like a very nice offer to help you pick up some extra cash since your main job won't be paying out as much. |
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cavarsan
Joined: 27 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:03 am Post subject: its fixed salary |
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| im not paid by the class. i have a fixed salary |
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Wildbore
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:40 am Post subject: Re: its fixed salary |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
| im not paid by the class. i have a fixed salary |
The labor law just refers to "worker," not employee or contractor. You're 10 months in, they need to give you a months notice. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: GETTING FIRED!! TTOMPAZ HELP!! |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
My questions are:
do labor laws apply to me (i think i am a private contractor)?
What is your advice for me TTompaz?
Should i fight for my rights?
Does the kindergarten have any responsibilities with me?
can they fire me like that? |
1) Yes, labor laws apply.
2) talk to a labor office. File a complaint if you feel justified. IF you seek advice then they will take the easy way out and send you away. IF you file then they have to act.
3) The best you will get is 30 days notice or 30 days pay.
4) No but they did. See #3.
5) File a complaint and MOVE on. You will lose more by trying to hold on to the past then you will by taking something new for March 2.
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ttompatz
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cavarsan
Joined: 27 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: Ttompaz said..... |
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Ttompaz, when you say file a complaint. Do you mean for me to file it against the kindergarten or the agency who hires me?
The reason why im trying to fight for this is because this job is one ina million: Pay is 2.3 and work hours are from 10:30 to 2:30.
Thanks a lot for your help |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Ttompaz said..... |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
Ttompaz, when you say file a complaint. Do you mean for me to file it against the kindergarten or the agency who hires me?
The reason why im trying to fight for this is because this job is one ina million: Pay is 2.3 and work hours are from 10:30 to 2:30.
Thanks a lot for your help |
Whomever your actual employer is (the guys who pay you / the people who you have a contract with) ... but again...
If the job is gone the job is gone - all you can force is 30 days pay or 30 days notice.
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Ttompaz said..... |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
Ttompaz, when you say file a complaint. Do you mean for me to file it against the kindergarten or the agency who hires me?
The reason why im trying to fight for this is because this job is one ina million: Pay is 2.3 and work hours are from 10:30 to 2:30.
Thanks a lot for your help |
One in a million!!! So they were supplying housing, health, pension? |
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cavarsan
Joined: 27 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 am Post subject: one in a million |
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Well by being able to finish work at 2:30 everyday i call it one in a milion.
They dont provide housing, nor pension.....
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:52 am Post subject: Re: one in a million |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
Well by being able to finish work at 2:30 everyday i call it one in a milion.
They dont provide housing, nor pension.....
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Man do I feel like an idiot. I turned down a job for the same hours (admittedly a little later in the day) and no benefits last week. They initially offered 2.5, when I said no they increased it to 2.7. I still declined. I assume as they didn't come back with another offer that they must have found some other F visa holder to fill the role.
Are F visa holders really taking these roles, particularly those without benefits, for such low ball amounts? |
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cavarsan
Joined: 27 Jun 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:48 am Post subject: are f visa holders really taking these roles? |
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Well i admit that schools probably would prefer f visa holders since there is very little paperwork in hiring us.
Today after i officially got fired and was on my way back home, i dropped by a school and was hired after a quick interview ( i havent decided if i ll take the job yet).
However, F visa holders are not to be seen as a threat bcuz: How many of us are there? And how many job openings you see daily? |
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TheFoodie
Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Location: Ebay Central
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| Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: GETTING FIRED!! TTOMPAZ HELP!! |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
Making it as short as possible:
I have an F6 and have been working at this kindergarten for 10 months.
The agency pays me, not the kindergarten and i am taxed 3/3%.
When i applied for the job they asked me if i could teach for more than a year and i said yes but we initially signed a one year contract which ends end of may.
Issue:
Agency emailed me yesterday saying this:
Hi, the school may reduce the number of classes from march so would you like our help in finding a new job?
They didnt explain anything or fire me properly, nor have they given me a one month notice.
My questions are:
do labor laws apply to me (i think i am a private contractor)?
What is your advice for me TTompaz?
Should i fight for my rights?
Does the kindergarten have any responsibilities with me?
can they fire me like that?
P.S ive been a good teacher and the school has been happy with me so this is not a matter of me not being suitable for the job.
thanks a lot.... |
Finally an interesting story. Not as juicy as the old ones but kinda fun. Ish. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:45 am Post subject: Re: one in a million |
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| cavarsan wrote: |
Well by being able to finish work at 2:30 everyday i call it one in a milion.
They dont provide housing, nor pension.....
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You're deluding yourself. I finish work at 1h30 every day, and I get housing and pension. |
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