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sck2012
Joined: 04 Jul 2012
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:36 pm Post subject: Help with South Korean defense strategy against North Korea |
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Hello everyone. Just looking for a bit of advice with regards to something I am doing soon at university. Thank you in advance for the help!
We have Mock Cabinet coming up in a week or so. Basically we play the role of different ministries and deal with a topic, the topic being the current situation between the North and the South.
We have to submit an agenda, with relevance to our ministry, which is the MND (Ministry of national defense). The agenda has to be organized as follows (background, major points, relevance to laws and decrees, details of action plan)
So, basically I'm looking for help with regards to different strategies, i.e: defensive, offensive and deterrence. Issues relating to military build up, anti-missile defense systems, relations with US, preemptive attack strategy, civilian defense (evacuation process) etc etc, you get the idea.
Thank you for the assistance. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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No offence but isn't the point of university that you're supposed to prepare for this kind of thing on your own. By reading books and taking notes and stuff? At least it was in my day.
Anyway IMO you'll get a much better response if you make some sweeping statements about North Korea having rubbish weapons that can't do any damage or something, then sit back and wait for all the counter arguments/insults to come flooding in. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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There already is a detailed plan called OPLAN 5027. Try looking that up. I doubt you will be able to get the entire document unless you're in the military though. |
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sck2012
Joined: 04 Jul 2012
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, I guess times have changed since your day...
As always, constructive advice is very much appreciated, pointless comments, preferably not.
Thanks again. |
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Died By Bear

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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OP I applaud and commend you on your research plan. Post your request, sit back and smoke a few bowls while the 'research' starts rolling in. Good job. Good luck with your MND agenda!
BTW, OPLAN 5027-94 was an ammended plan that allowed the ROK forces to hold at FEBA Bravo until the Americans could send in reinforcements, etc.
5027-96, 5027-98, involved the Japanese as well. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Guess times haven't changed all that much after all, eh, OP?
Nice attitude. Crash and burn....  |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'll take a stab at it. Deskwarming today, this would be a good way to exercise the little grey cells.
First off, we could look at the level of policy Do you have a specific policy you wish to advocate for? Reunification/Stability/Negotiations/Nuclear Disarmament/Improved Links with the US/Decreased dependence on the US/Cooperation with China/Fear of China/etc. you get the idea. Or have you had a policy passed down to you? Or are you looking to establish a policy?
Also, in this scenario, how much cooperation and competition is there between ministries? Are you going to be dealing with budgets? Is the diplomatic wing going to be pursuing their own policy? Do you have to concern yourself with domestic opinion and politics? Are other nations represented at this? Are you doing this within the context of the current administration of Park Geun-Hye? Are you proposals subject to legislation? Are they subject to treaty?
What is the time-frame and scope of this? Are you pursuing short-term or long-term policy?
In this scenario is there a referee with strict, pre-determined "conditions"? Or is it more of a brainstorming?
In order to begin to form everything you really have to determine those things (and probably some others I've left out)
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For stuff you can get started on now, I'd look at a brief history of the Korean military, maybe starting from say, occupation times. Then I'd give an overview of the current makeup of both militaries, and any political considerations. You'd also want to include an explanation of the current diplomatic climate as well, and look at both the US and China and their roles.
You could go a bit more in depth and look at the various systems currently deployed and in development by both militaries and their projected capabilities. The greater the detail the better- There are people out there that know their stuff and if you make some basic errors, they will jump on it.
Of course, no discussion is complete without a look at the North Korean regime and its operations, especially in regards to WMDs and ballistic missile capability.
Everything after that is dependent on your policy above. If you favor a policy of confrontation and a push for reunification, then you'll make different decisions and advocate different choices than one of continued stability, a slow push for reform, and waiting for the internal downfall of the regime.
Really, we need more info to help you. |
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javis
Joined: 28 Feb 2013
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Died By Bear wrote: |
OP I applaud and commend you on your research plan. Post your request, sit back and smoke a few bowls while the 'research' starts rolling in. Good job. Good luck with your MND agenda! |
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tardisrider

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:07 am Post subject: |
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This kid's entire presentation is going to be "Those meanies on the internet wouldn't do my homework for me! They deserve what they get! The end." |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Well good luck on this one. The rest of the world would also like to know what the South Korean defense policy is. I mean besides depending on the U.S. If you dont react when they sink your warship or murder innocent civillian fishermen , you really are defeneless. But U.S. beef , now there is something worth fighting again |
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sublunari
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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It could be a spirited discussion. Did you consider any of the points I raised? Again, happy to help out. |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:51 pm Post subject:
Wow, this forum is a hostile place. I was already aware of that fact, but I posted nonetheless. You live and learn I guess.
In my opinion, my original post was in no way rude or provocative. It was just a polite request for assistance. Of course you assume that I have done absolutely zero research from the outset and condemn me, actually insulting me. I have read books, talked to professors, utilized key internet resources and so on. That being said: I wanted to get a perspective from a forum that is predominantly inhabited by foreigners involved in South Korea.
My attitude is not negative and my response was a sarcastic one aimed at a pointless insult designed to move the thread off-topic.
Maybe I should have refrained from commenting on the reasoning behind my question? Just a more generalized approach, i.e: what do you think ROK's defense strategy should be in the wake of the recent events?
Oh well, the behaviour of people on this forum is generally representative of foreigners in Korea anyway. But then again, that's another long and unpleasant story.
Thank you for the advice, those who actually tried to help that is.
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If you know about this forum already you might have picked up that general questions like 'can someone recommend a school to me?' Get sarcastic answers like 'Wonderland' but specific questions like 'Has anyone worked at the Daegu branch of Pagoda? usually generate useful responses. Your question was more akin to the first type. I actually gave you this advice, albeit in a jokey kind of way, in my first response which you discarded as 'pointless.' As for insults, I can see a couple of wisecracks about taking things easy but not much else to get hot under the collar about. |
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rockbilly
Joined: 19 Mar 2013
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:39 am Post subject: Centurion Counter-RAM |
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Here you go, OP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-RAM
This thing blasts the North's artillery rounds out of the sky before they can hit Seoul.
According to my, ahem, source, a reserve officer in the ROK navy, everything else coming southward will be decommissioned on Day One. Nork ships and submarines sunk--check. Nork planes blown out of the sky--check.
ROK Special Forces then seize Pyongyang on Day Three.
Poor North Korea is completely wrecked in just three days. Wishful thinking? I don't know--the technology is certainly on SK's side, though.
Trouble is, an awful lot of those Norks actually BELIEVE. What becomes of a reunited Korea about a third of whose population BELIEVE in communism--or Kimism, or whatever? |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Trouble is, an awful lot of those Norks actually BELIEVE. What becomes of a reunited Korea about a third of whose population BELIEVE in communism--or Kimism, or whatever? |
Good point. This isn't just a physical war it is a war of ideologies. The best strategy the South/USA can use is to enlist the help of China and Russia to ensure as peaceful a resolution as possible. Wars of the past have shown us that increasing the amounts of bombs dropped or the ferocity of weapons used doesn't ensure a victory. |
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