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Ralph Winfield



Joined: 23 Apr 2013

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:48 pm    Post subject: Bu Yeo Chungnam Province Reply with quote

Has anybody ever worked for the Bu Yeo Education Dept. in Chungnam Province? I've been offered a job and need info about cost of living, workplace conditions, and the local vibe. I hope that it is a friendly place as it is small.
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Beeyee



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never worked there but I know people who have. One guy in particular loved it. It's small, rural and has lots of historic sites if that is your thing. I think the guy I'm talking about had only 10 kids in one school.
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Ralph Winfield



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply to my post. I was told by the male recruiter from Maple Recruiting that I'd be teaching a small number of kids in all of my classes. I got the co-teacher's phone number and she told me that I'd actually have almost 40 kids in each one of my classes. She also said that most of them are orphans or have learning disabilities and that foreigners are not good for Korea and run away from the schools (I'd have to work at 2 schools). I assured her that I'm going to be professional and stick it out. However, I might bail on this job offer.
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valkerie



Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd run from that co-teacher!
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Ralph Winfield



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will not believe this: The co-teacher sent me a letter from the principal and it asks why I want to go to Korea and if I'd complain about working on all national holidays for free and if I'd tell the government. He calls this a cultural difference between Westerners and Koreans. The co-teacher admitted to me that an American male sued them for being fired without notice and cause.and the human rights commission investigated them for this and child abuse against students. She said that the former teacher told the government about kids being badly beaten and that this is the Korean way.

Maybe I will try to go to another province as Chungnam appears to be very backwards. And I'll stay away from Maple Recruiting while I'm at it.
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Ralph Winfield



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, is it okay to post the principal's letter here? It's in Korean and English. I hope that a moderator replies to this because I can not send a message to any of them.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder why the foreign teachers don't stick it out there. Laughing

At least they were honest, I guess?
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Ralph Winfield



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, at least they were honest to me.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Bu Yeo Chungnam Province Reply with quote

Ralph Winfield wrote:
Bu Yeo


Just write it Buyeo, nobody puts the space there.

It's a town of 90,000 people. It has an old primitive fortress, large and really nice to walk around but not real impressive. It also has a Lotte Burger right across from the bus station, but Lotte Burger is not exactly a McDonalds. Koreans like it better though. It has a small restaurant area with some nice restaurants. It also has a fairly old temple with a Buddha statue out in the courtyard, well weathered but discernible. The reason it is mentionable is it's from the 1200's and is very large. One of the most important things about Buyeo however is you can take an express bus from the bus station to Seoul with only a few quick stops. It takes
2 1/2 hours, good for weekends.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph Winfield wrote:
Thanks for the reply to my post. I was told by the male recruiter from Maple Recruiting that I'd be teaching a small number of kids in all of my classes. I got the co-teacher's phone number and she told me that I'd actually have almost 40 kids in each one of my classes. She also said that most of them are orphans or have learning disabilities and that foreigners are not good for Korea and run away from the schools (I'd have to work at 2 schools). I assured her that I'm going to be professional and stick it out. However, I might bail on this job offer.


Both the class size and the having to teach multiple schools are very common. I taught 6 classes, 40 kids per class in a city close to Buyeo. Most likely your co-teacher will teach the Curriculum English classes with you assisting her. Although you might teach the extracurricular classes alone which will definitely be smaller, especially as students stop attending them. You might not be able to get any other kind of public school job, considering the fact you're new to Korea. You can try for something else if you want.

Although not a red flag, if the co-teacher actually asked if you would be willing to work on government holidays that are national holidays where employers are generally on holiday then that may be a problem. If she asked you if you would tell the government then you probably would be paid under the table from some school money pool. It would mean extra money, I would almost say go for this job except that this is sort of odd, I don't know. It would only be a year and I know Buyeo, it's not all bad and it would get your foot in the door for public school positions. Another thing too, if the principle and co-teacher like you because you're willing to toe the line it could mean recommendations from the both principle and co-teacher.
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Ralph Winfield



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Young Clinton

Does Buyeo have any private language academies? I tried to use Google to find an answer to this question but had no luck.

The apartment for the public elementary schools gigs is in a big complex in Dong-ri and there are a lot of other foreign teachers living there.
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Ranman



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach in Buyeo at an elementary school here. I like it because the cost of living is lower than the cities and the town's not too bad. If you want to go to Seoul or Daejeon, they're relatively close by, and the English teachers that are here in town are pretty cool. If you want to know more, just ask specifics.
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Ranman



Joined: 18 Aug 2012

PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph Winfield wrote:
You will not believe this: The co-teacher sent me a letter from the principal and it asks why I want to go to Korea and if I'd complain about working on all national holidays for free and if I'd tell the government. He calls this a cultural difference between Westerners and Koreans. The co-teacher admitted to me that an American male sued them for being fired without notice and cause.and the human rights commission investigated them for this and child abuse against students. She said that the former teacher told the government about kids being badly beaten and that this is the Korean way.

Maybe I will try to go to another province as Chungnam appears to be very backwards. And I'll stay away from Maple Recruiting while I'm at it.


Whoa, didn't read this part. Screw that crap. Don't take that job offer. I like the school I'm at and haven't run into any of that, but then again, I don't know how the other schools operate around here.
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Ranman



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ralph Winfield wrote:
You will not believe this: The co-teacher sent me a letter from the principal and it asks why I want to go to Korea and if I'd complain about working on all national holidays for free and if I'd tell the government. He calls this a cultural difference between Westerners and Koreans. The co-teacher admitted to me that an American male sued them for being fired without notice and cause.and the human rights commission investigated them for this and child abuse against students. She said that the former teacher told the government about kids being badly beaten and that this is the Korean way.

Maybe I will try to go to another province as Chungnam appears to be very backwards. And I'll stay away from Maple Recruiting while I'm at it.


Whoa, didn't read this part. Screw that crap. Don't take that job offer. I like the school I'm at and haven't run into any of that, but then again, I don't know how the other schools operate around here.
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Ralph Winfield



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranman, do you know the names of any language schools in Buyeo?
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