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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I just wanna kick guys like this in the balls for potentially making my life harder in Korea. |
He is only "suspected" and wanted for questioning, don't you believe he could be innocent? How about we line up all people wanted for questioning so that you can kick them in the crotch? I doubt he cares whether your life could be "potentially" harder or not.
OTOH, S. Korea would never ask another country or report to Interpol a S. Korean man suspected of the same. Its image is far too important, S. Korea would just wait until he returned, if ever. And besides, "pedophiles" aren't "pedophiles" in S. Korea, they are "behavioral addicts."
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/04/12/2013041201187.html |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Los Angeloser wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I just wanna kick guys like this in the balls for potentially making my life harder in Korea. |
He is only "suspected" and wanted for questioning, don't you believe he could be innocent? How about we line up all people wanted for questioning so that you can kick them in the crotch? I doubt he cares whether your life could be "potentially" harder or not.
OTOH, S. Korea would never ask another country or report to Interpol a S. Korean man suspected of the same. Its image is far too important, S. Korea would just wait until he returned, if ever. And besides, "pedophiles" aren't "pedophiles" in S. Korea, they are "behavioral addicts."
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/04/12/2013041201187.html |
Best post of this thread so far. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans should deport all foreigners including US military as it appears that they despise us all.  |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Dodge7 wrote: |
| I just wanna kick guys like this in the balls for potentially making my life harder in Korea. |
Funny, I want to kick them in the balls for messing with little kids. |
Yeah something's a little off when it comes to an alleged diddler being found and people more worried about their life being convenient.
That being said, the key word is alleged. Let the man have his day in court.
This issue is actually a very niche one, one that should (and likely won't) have a very niche response- Suspected and charged individuals being able to exit and enter countries (which seems all countries allow). There should be ways to stop this in the 21st century.
What's needed is a sensible closing of a loophole, not a witch hunt.
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As an apologist known for feats of mental gymnastics in apologizing, that Gusts post was Comanici-esqe in its apologizing against parents worried about sex offenders teaching their kids. Sorry, when it comes to diddling, that's something where you need to be a bit more balanced rather than reflexively anti-Korean and looking out for yourself.
You'd think everyone would be in favor of closing this loophole. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:01 am Post subject: |
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They should make a movie about him. It might be popular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Bride
"My Little Bride (어린 신부 Eorin sinbu) is a Korean romantic comedy film about an arranged marriage between a new teacher and a student. It was directed by Kim Ho Jun and was released in 2004. It was the second most popular Korean film of 2004 in Korea, behind the blockbuster hit Taegukgi, with 3,149,500 visitors. It was 4th most popular among all films.[1]"
The girl in the movie is 15 years old when she marries her Art teacher. It's on youtube if anyone is curious, and there is "first time" scene too. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
As an apologist known for feats of mental gymnastics in apologizing, that Gusts post was Comanici-esqe in its apologizing against parents worried about sex offenders teaching their kids. Sorry, when it comes to diddling, that's something where you need to be a bit more balanced rather than reflexively anti-Korean and looking out for yourself.
You'd think everyone would be in favor of closing this loophole. |
Yeah this is a situation where a legitimate flaw in their screening process has been exposed and it needs to be taken care of. It's pretty much a no brainer and I expect parents to make sure their teachers aren't pervs. There are some sick people out there and I won't fault someone for erring on the side of caution. I wish the USA would fix it on our end and keep a better eye on guys like that.
I don't see a reason to be offended by the idea of screening anyone who is working with children, especially when different cultures are involved. |
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Los Angeloser
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 1:51 am Post subject: |
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There have been many articles about this in the Korean media. Read 'Gusts of Popular Feeling' to see new English teacher cartoons reminiscent of North Korean artists. BTW, do some South Korean newspapers hire North Korean artists? I ask because S. Korea did for the cartoon Pororo(then got banned in America).
Anyway, why is S. Korea complaining about the FBI when S. Korea lets sexual assault convicts go abroad after removing their ankle bracelets? In fact, it's against the S. Korean law to restrict convicts from traveling abroad. Oh, and I checked Interpol and the two mentioned below aren't on the list, no Korean is wanted for any type of sexual offense so it must be S. Korea's own "wanted list"(they don't want to damage their image).
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2012101611008
"Those convicted of sexual assault who are supposed to wear electronic monitoring anklets have been found to travel overseas with their anklets unfastened. Two have been put on the wanted list after failing to return to Korea.
According to Justice Ministry data submitted to Rep. Seo Young-kyo of the main opposition Democratic United Party, who is on the parliamentary legislation and judiciary committee, 26 people convicted of sexual assault have departed the country under permission from probation officers since 2006, when the system was introduced.
Rep. Seo said, "Probation officers make arbitrary decisions to allow these people to travel overseas, and this goes against the purpose of the electronic anklet system, which is to prevent the recurrence of sexual abuse."
The Justice Ministry said, however, "It is against the law to restrict relocation of residence and travel for those wearing electronic anklets."
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I feel bad for his wife. Imagine being married then finding out your husband might be a pedophile.
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What's needed is a sensible closing of a loophole, not a witch hunt. |
That's pretty much spot on.
I know it's selfish but I'm also worried how this might affect my life.  |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Allow me to add something...many of you are quick and always ready to jump on the bandwagon to condemn someone for most anything just because.
followers..not leaders.
If this person is in fact...guilty...then by all means...fair game.
But through the years, we have all seen investigations where people get jammed up, public opinion convicts them, courts convict them and a few years later...oh oh....we made a mistake! This person(s) was not guilty!
This could very well be YOU getting the finger pointed at because some child was "lead" by the cops, parents or what not in an attempt to hang you.
Yep...we have millions of pedophiles in the world who are known and many who have not been caught...
how about a 18 year old kid who has been dating their boyfriend/girlfriend since middle school and now suddenly...so and so is 18 and their BF/GF is under 18.... you're a pedophile under the law! And we all know of older couples who met dated/married...when one of them was over 18 and the other is under 18...under the law at the time..they were not pedophiles...fast forward to 2013...and you're guilty!
My Uncle date a gal who is two years younger then him....18/16....had a child...of course..that was many years back...
my point is, we all makes excuses to fit our situation and yet condemn others.
If your messing with children...someone under 18...still considered a child under the law...you have no business messing with them let alone messing with 8/9/10 year olds which is what this guy is wanted for! He'll get his dues when he gets to prison..bubba will get him! But..if he's not guilty...his life will never be the same.
And why did it take the cops 8 years?
Something wrong here....passports are presented at the country being entered....and if you are a U.S. citizen...big brother/Uncle Sam KNOWS what country you are in! All these computers are interlinked and info is shared.
I am not sticking up for this guy..don't know him..but I do know this....don't condemn until the facts are known...it could be YOU!
Cops lie all the time, prosecutors..most twist the facts...children lie...
I won't teach those under 18 especially youngsters....one innocent pat on the back..good job type thing can be misconstrued and your life is done!
I have seen a number of teachers get jammed up over something so seemingly innocent, it could be you. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| I wish we had a more coherent organization. That way we could be seen as actively working to protect children by closing a loophole and showing "We are safe, certified, professional teachers", while still working to combat some kneejerk hysterical witch hunt against our profession. |
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maximmm
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| I wish we had a more coherent organization. That way we could be seen as actively working to protect children by closing a loophole and showing "We are safe, certified, professional teachers", while still working to combat some kneejerk hysterical witch hunt against our profession. |
I don't think anyone is against closing this gaping loophole. This loophole, however, is not likely to be closed from outside of USA/Canada/etc (in fact, I wonder if this loophole exists in Canada's and other nations' CRCs).
It seems odd that it has existed for such a long time, given that even in the US there are numerous jobs which require criminal record checks and if someone is on the wanted list, one would hope that CRC would show that much.
Anyway, as someone has mentioned, 'women only' job ads are likely to rise further as a result of this arrest. Local newspapers are having a field day with this story and will likely continue for a month or two.
One thing to keep in mind is that even if the loophole is closed, the witch hunt will continue. Korean news media has been demonizing foreigners even when there was no reason for it, and that witch hunt will now simply become more prominent fora while. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Was he actually arrested in the US?
In the UK all arrests are on your record regardless of conviction or not. |
No such thing as innocent until proven guilty, huh? I mean that would wreck any job application you're seeking back home.
As for this pedophile, let's hope what he did, happens to him. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I haven't done a check when I did my F6 paperwork two years ago. However , I thinks they're required now. Even with a F6 some institutions require you to get a check. I had to get one done for a Kindy that I taught at p/t. |
I thought all POEs now require a background check regardless of visa. So, that should keep anyone with a criminal record out of schools, except for private tutoring or illegal jobs. This includes F5's. |
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newb
Joined: 27 Aug 2012
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
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| I haven't done a check when I did my F6 paperwork two years ago. However , I thinks they're required now. Even with a F6 some institutions require you to get a check. I had to get one done for a Kindy that I taught at p/t. |
I thought all POEs now require a background check regardless of visa. So, that should keep anyone with a criminal record out of schools, except for private tutoring or illegal jobs. This includes F5's. |
Apparently, it's not happening. |
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