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World Traveler
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: Busan to eliminate all middle school NETs |
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I knew it was coming sooner or later. I'm glad I had my fill and leaving in 3 months.
All I can say is a good time has ended, so newbies be prepared. Conditions in Korean PSs won't get any better so collect your paychecks and save as much as you can. Head for other countries if you desire to continue EFL path. Ciao. |
The official document was sent today. No more foreign teachers in the public middle schools. Seoul was first, now Busan. I wonder who's next.
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| The country isn't doing well, cuts will happen. The peak is over, that is all that can be said with certainty. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:10 pm Post subject: Re: Busan to eliminate all middle school NETs |
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I knew it was coming sooner or later. I'm glad I had my fill and leaving in 3 months.
All I can say is a good time has ended, so newbies be prepared. Conditions in Korean PSs won't get any better so collect your paychecks and save as much as you can. Head for other countries if you desire to continue EFL path. Ciao. |
The official document was sent today. No more foreign teachers in the public middle schools. Seoul was first, now Busan. I wonder who's next.
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| The country isn't doing well, cuts will happen. The peak is over, that is all that can be said with certainty. |
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No news there.
The short/mid term goal/ public policy (since 2008) is to move English NETS to elementary levels (where they can actually do some good), eventually reducing the overall numbers to about 40% of what they are now and train up enough English speaking, licensed Korean teachers to fill the roles now filled by largely untrained NETs.
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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joeydonuts
Joined: 19 Nov 2012
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: Busan to eliminate all middle school NETs |
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I knew it was coming sooner or later. I'm glad I had my fill and leaving in 3 months.
All I can say is a good time has ended, so newbies be prepared. Conditions in Korean PSs won't get any better so collect your paychecks and save as much as you can. Head for other countries if you desire to continue EFL path. Ciao. |
The official document was sent today. No more foreign teachers in the public middle schools. Seoul was first, now Busan. I wonder who's next.
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| The country isn't doing well, cuts will happen. The peak is over, that is all that can be said with certainty. |
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No news there.
The short/mid term goal/ public policy (since 2008) is to move English NETS to elementary levels (where they can actually do some good), eventually reducing the overall numbers to about 40% of what they are now and train up enough English speaking, licensed Korean teachers to fill the roles now filled by largely untrained NETs.
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I do think that the place of native-speakers in the public school realm is on the teacher-training side of things. I work at a decent Seoul uni. where the in-service teacher training programs and TESOL-cert. programs (I work in another program) are doing somewhat well in terms of numbers and people employed. Again to work in these programs, one must be qualified and have experience, etc. Point being that they will still be work out there for those with good knowledge of the Korean public school system backed up with credentials. Again, this is just my humble opinion based on casual observations. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| I wonder who the lucky 10 are, who got to stay? I guess it's back to a barebones EPIK with one NET in each town, 2+ schools, 30% runners and only 10% willing to renew. |
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YTMND
Joined: 16 Jan 2012
Location: You're the man now dog!!
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Are Korean teachers in Seoul getting better results? Where is the testing?
Does Busan know something we don't or are they just hopping on the same ship, sink or swim? |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Are Korean teachers in Seoul getting better results? Where is the testing?
Does Busan know something we don't or are they just hopping on the same ship, sink or swim? |
Wasn't there a posted article in some other thread, or somewhere else maybe, of one Korean study that says NET's are more beneficial in middle and high schools, but mostly for higher level students?
Anyways someone posted the numbers for next year for the Busan Office of Education's plans for 2014 for NETs:
Elementary - 283 (down from 293)
Middle - 10 (down from 171)
High - 13 (down from 57)
Others - 5 (stays the same)
Total - 312 (down from 527)
Other places will start chopping. It'll be like the old days of EPIK where NETs potentially will be the only public school teacher in their town. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Wasn't there a posted article in some other thread, or somewhere else maybe, of one Korean study that says NET's are more beneficial in middle and high schools, but mostly for higher level students?
Anyways someone posted the numbers for next year for the Busan Office of Education's plans for 2014 for NETs:
Elementary - 283 (down from 293)
Middle - 10 (down from 171)
High - 13 (down from 57)
Others - 5 (stays the same)
Total - 312 (down from 527)
Other places will start chopping. It'll be like the old days of EPIK where NETs potentially will be the only public school teacher in their town. |
Yes, the chopping was always in the cards.
I reluctantly agree that the focus should turn to elementary kids. The confidence & speaking ability those students can derive from interacting with a foreign teacher on a relatively level playing field is a valuable advantage in the long run.
Too many untrained foreign secondary teachers (& I have observed many in regular teaching situations) overestimate how much most of their students are actually taking in. I've been guilty of that too. Advantage goes to bright active students but many are left out.
The cutback figures above will spread nation-wide, no question.
Reminds me of when I started & then were 12 EPIK teachers for the entirety of Gangwon Province. Its been quite a ride since, watching the hundreds of teachers come through. A bold & impactful initiative on the part of the MOE, I'd say.
But into a new & different phase now. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| No shock there as this was always going to happen at some point. |
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