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12ax7
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Wow, a city pissing contest debated by foreigners to both cities. |
Yeah, this one's got self-doubt written all over it. |
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young_clinton
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Konglishman wrote: |
Indoor Heating: Seoul wins with the widespread use of ondol heating. That said, it is possible to find this option in Shanghai if you are willing to pay enough rent money.
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I had Ondol heating in my apartment on top of a house, although I probably would have preferred central heating. Could you explain the advantages of Ondol heating? |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
Indoor Heating: Seoul wins with the widespread use of ondol heating. That said, it is possible to find this option in Shanghai if you are willing to pay enough rent money.
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I had Ondol heating in my apartment on top of a house, although I probably would have preferred central heating. Could you explain the advantages of Ondol heating? |
When you sit on the floor you can keep your cup of coffee warm by placing it next to you. That's about it.  |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Wow, a city pissing contest debated by foreigners to both cities. |
Yeah, this one's got self-doubt written all over it. |
Self-doubt by whom? |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:29 am Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Wow, a city pissing contest debated by foreigners to both cities. |
Yeah, this one's got self-doubt written all over it. |
Self-doubt by whom? |
Isn't it obvious? |
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byrddogs
Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| 12ax7 wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Wow, a city pissing contest debated by foreigners to both cities. |
Yeah, this one's got self-doubt written all over it. |
Self-doubt by whom? |
Isn't it obvious? |
Yep, you're right, it is. |
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12ax7
Joined: 07 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| byrddogs wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| byrddogs wrote: |
| 12ax7 wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Wow, a city pissing contest debated by foreigners to both cities. |
Yeah, this one's got self-doubt written all over it. |
Self-doubt by whom? |
Isn't it obvious? |
Yep, you're right, it is. |
Good, so I hope you stop doubting your decisions from now on. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
Indoor Heating: Seoul wins with the widespread use of ondol heating. That said, it is possible to find this option in Shanghai if you are willing to pay enough rent money.
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I had Ondol heating in my apartment on top of a house, although I probably would have preferred central heating. Could you explain the advantages of Ondol heating? |
With air heating, when you open the door or window, the heat's gone. With Ondol, floor heating, opening the window or door doesn't make the room lose it's heat. Pretty good Korean invention, actually. |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| young_clinton wrote: |
| Konglishman wrote: |
Indoor Heating: Seoul wins with the widespread use of ondol heating. That said, it is possible to find this option in Shanghai if you are willing to pay enough rent money.
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I had Ondol heating in my apartment on top of a house, although I probably would have preferred central heating. Could you explain the advantages of Ondol heating? |
I probably should have elaborated on that point a little more. Due to laws regarding the use of central heating in China, Shanghai is just far enough south for widespread central heating to not be allowed. So, the only heating you can typically get is from air conditioner units which is not particularly efficient. That combined with many apartments not having much better insulation than Korean apartments, the majority of Shanghai residents who not rich (meaning they could not afford to have any kind of efficient heating system such as ondol) will just wear winter coats inside in order to cope with the winter.
Some people will also use heat fans, but I have found this only works particularly well for small rooms. |
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byrddogs
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Location: Shanghai
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