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cmxc
Joined: 19 May 2008
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 Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:55 pm Post subject: Um, Korean Gender Bender??? |
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While I have observed that women are often treated as second class citizens in Korea, this story about the gender of a Korean woman(?) Footballer has me confused. Can anyone shed light on her true gender?
"This is not the first time that Park's gender has been questioned. Prior to the 2010 Asian Football Confederation Women's Asian Cup, the Chinese team manager demanded that Park undergo a gender test. Park ended up not being on the final roster of the Korean national team."
Woman Footballer Park Eun-seon in Gender Row
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/11/07/2013110701533.html
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Women's football in bizarre gender firestorm
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/sports/2013/11/136_145738.html |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Gender bender? What about guys here wearing pink and having man purses? |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Salmon pink is cool.
It takes a real man to wear it! |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| She/he could be intersexed. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I think one of my uni students has some form of gender identity issue. She looks, dresses, sounds, acts and probably thinks like a male. If I wasn't working at an all-female school, I would never be able to tell she is female. |
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optik404
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| You really think anyone on this board knows her true gender? |
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neilio
Joined: 12 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| we all saw the movie Ladybugs. This - shit - happens. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| You really think anyone on this board knows her true gender? |
She's woman.  |
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Weigookin74
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| optik404 wrote: |
| You really think anyone on this board knows her true gender? |
You're all woman. |
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duhweecher
Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:27 am Post subject: |
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I just came to the board to ask about shopping, but after I saw this I couldn't help but respond.
I'm a bit shocked that national newspapers & the OP (Gender Bender?) don't understand the difference between sex and gender. (Are they using Wikipedia as there educators? Tsk tsk.) If gender is a prerequisite for soccer/ football or something that can even be tested, then I'd be darned if there isn't a Nobel prize winning scholar somewhere hiding in the country (likely peering over bushes at people).
There may be some social issues brewing over her gender, but I doubt that her sex is difficult to establish, the latter of which is the only one important for playing a sport.
Now back to shopping needs... |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| duhweecher wrote: |
| I'm a bit shocked that national newspapers & the OP (Gender Bender?) don't understand the difference between sex and gender. |
I'll be honest, I didn't know there was a difference between sex and gender either. Is this common knowledge? |
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duhweecher
Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| duhweecher wrote: |
| I'm a bit shocked that national newspapers & the OP (Gender Bender?) don't understand the difference between sex and gender. |
I'll be honest, I didn't know there was a difference between sex and gender either. Is this common knowledge? |
Good question. For the college educated engaged in discourse on such matters, I would certainly hope so. Unless, they have every intention of pontificating about things they don't know.
But smtg like this passing through editors at national newspapers is really a bad sign. I'm getting the feeling few women or male feminists work at these papers.
I'm not a feminist. And yes, I'd say it's pretty common knowledge that they're different, but few people have ever taken the time to look up the exact definitions (the job of editors/ writers).
Personally, I think it's important to know the difference between a transgender and a transsexual. I mean, they are people too. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| duhweecher wrote: |
| (Gender Bender?) don't understand the difference between sex and gender. (Are they using Wikipedia as there educators? .. |
I just love when people make these kind of posts. Those who see the irony get to wink at one another and share a small chuckle. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
| duhweecher wrote: |
| I'm a bit shocked that national newspapers & the OP (Gender Bender?) don't understand the difference between sex and gender. |
I'll be honest, I didn't know there was a difference between sex and gender either. Is this common knowledge? |
I thought sex was male, female for reproduction and gender was hetero, homo, bi, trans, cross-dresser, but I think is a room for one more. Now that LeBron James has 'come out', as he said:
"I love myself, and I get turned on by me, and since I am a man, I must be gay."
time has come to add another letter to LGBT, and that is W for 'wanker'.
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duhweecher
Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| duhweecher wrote: |
| (Gender Bender?) don't understand the difference between sex and gender. (Are they using Wikipedia as there educators? .. |
I just love when people make these kind of posts. Those who see the irony get to wink at one another and share a small chuckle. |
The irony that Wikipedia is a haphazardly organized compendium of scholarly works, which actually confuses the laypeople who rely (often heavily) on it? Oh that "irony?" Ummm lol? <girl rolls eyes and chuckles> |
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