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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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 Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| duhweecher wrote: |
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*sigh*
Rape is rape regardless of the gender or sex or whatever of the people involved. I'm pretty sure we don't need the insane number and variety of gender classifications that have been invented in the past few years to see this simple truth. |
Doubt that was every true. Rape has always been about gender. |
No. Rape has always been about one person violating another without their consent. The problems arise - as you so helpfully pointed out earlier - when you introduce specific laws for cases of sexual assault against specific genders - a la the transgender who was raped in Itaewon and had the charges downgraded to assault.
If anything, you should be arguing for less gender discrepancy, not giving us links to "Like me now on Facebook" references touting unsubstantiated theories about gradation of gender.
Also, what does "Doubt that was every true." even mean? You could learn a little something about clarity from Fox's posts. |
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duhweecher
Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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I have no problem with a "methodology" when it's used to refer to a methodology. |
No, you made it clear you felt "methodology," a common-usage word with a completely transparent meaning, was a word I used to "sound smart." How ill-read must one be for such a word to induce such an impression I do not know, but your own failings are unimportant here, as my response is a general one. The trend in question is an example of the mediocrity promised by ever-broadening access to higher education. As access is expanded again and again by political and economic forces, the quality of the education must necessarily decrease, so as to accommodate the new target demographic. The trouble, of course, is that while the cleverness, insight, wisdom, or ability of these new students may be less, their pride is no smaller for it. No smaller, but far more sensitive, knowing as they do in their heart of hearts just what a sham it is in which they participate. Accordingly, they are highly susceptible to the sentiment, "You are no better than me!" Some express it directly, but most resort to indirect means, and attacking vocabulary is one such example. After all, if your interlocutor is "no better than you," then he must simply be putting on a show, trying to seem better than he truly is, and he must be put in his place!
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| My point, deary, is that you don't have a point. |
You can declare that you do not see my point a thousand more times, and my response will remain the same: "Of course you don't." Having said that, I see no need to keep repeating it.
I somewhat suspect that this poster is a puppet account designed for baiting, but no matter. If she is genuine, then she warrants my rants, and if not, then she enjoys trolling just as I enjoy ranting, so I am happy to play until I get bored. |
And apparently the feminist world is the one with the dramatics.
Excuse me miss, but you have yet to state your point. (definitely not Harvard material) |
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duhweecher
Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| duhweecher wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
*sigh*
Rape is rape regardless of the gender or sex or whatever of the people involved. I'm pretty sure we don't need the insane number and variety of gender classifications that have been invented in the past few years to see this simple truth. |
Doubt that was every true. Rape has always been about gender. |
No. Rape has always been about one person violating another without their consent. The problems arise - as you so helpfully pointed out earlier - when you introduce specific laws for cases of sexual assault against specific genders - a la the transgender who was raped in Itaewon and had the charges downgraded to assault.
If anything, you should be arguing for less gender discrepancy, not giving us links to "Like me now on Facebook" references touting unsubstantiated theories about gradation of gender.
Also, what does "Doubt that was every true." even mean? You could learn a little something about clarity from Fox's posts. |
Pure intellect....take a step back and think about it. |
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duhweecher
Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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| Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| duhweecher wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| duhweecher wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
*sigh*
Rape is rape regardless of the gender or sex or whatever of the people involved. I'm pretty sure we don't need the insane number and variety of gender classifications that have been invented in the past few years to see this simple truth. |
Doubt that was every true. Rape has always been about gender. |
No. Rape has always been about one person violating another without their consent. The problems arise - as you so helpfully pointed out earlier - when you introduce specific laws for cases of sexual assault against specific genders - a la the transgender who was raped in Itaewon and had the charges downgraded to assault.
If anything, you should be arguing for less gender discrepancy, not giving us links to "Like me now on Facebook" references touting unsubstantiated theories about gradation of gender.
Also, what does "Doubt that was every true." even mean? You could learn a little something about clarity from Fox's posts. |
Pure intellect....take a step back and think about it. |
"Rape is rape regardless of the gender or sex or whatever of the people involved."
Really |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| except making a fool of yourself by saying gender studies doesn't matter |
If tomorrow, Western nations (because it is only in the West that they teach this garbage) shut down all gender studies departments, the effect on society would be a positive one. Not only could a lot of money be saved, but all of the misguided women wasting their time learning such fluff might then be able to make a valuable contribution to society, rather than becoming a bunch of disagreeable, man-hating, unhappy, cat-collecting, screaming-about-the-patriarchy harridans. At the most, gender and ethnic studies type degrees should be modules within social studies (itself mostly a joke), not entire university departments. And while we are busy shutting down gender and ethnic studies departments, let's fire anyone whose job title starts with 'Diversity.' Well, I can dream. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| duhweecher wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| duhweecher wrote: |
| Underwaterbob wrote: |
*sigh*
Rape is rape regardless of the gender or sex or whatever of the people involved. I'm pretty sure we don't need the insane number and variety of gender classifications that have been invented in the past few years to see this simple truth. |
Doubt that was every true. Rape has always been about gender. |
No. Rape has always been about one person violating another without their consent. The problems arise - as you so helpfully pointed out earlier - when you introduce specific laws for cases of sexual assault against specific genders - a la the transgender who was raped in Itaewon and had the charges downgraded to assault.
If anything, you should be arguing for less gender discrepancy, not giving us links to "Like me now on Facebook" references touting unsubstantiated theories about gradation of gender.
Also, what does "Doubt that was every true." even mean? You could learn a little something about clarity from Fox's posts. |
Pure intellect....take a step back and think about it. |
Think about what? Your atrocious grammar or your complete lack of argument aside from "I'm right, and you're wrong, nyah nyah nyah."?
Assuming the obvious typo: every = ever. "Doubt that was ever true." implies you think that what I said is true, but that it never has been true? Which makes possibly even less sense.
Also "Think about it." is not a rebuttal.
| duhweecher wrote: |
"Rape is rape regardless of the gender or sex or whatever of the people involved."
Really |
Neither is "Really".
Do you have a point here? |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand why you think I originally posted intending to start a conversation with you. I've kindly left the door open for you to actually attempt to defend your position through rational argumentation, but make no mistake, absent such a compelling defense my interest lies in mocking your ideology and its self-absorbed practitioners, not listening to your transparent attempt at Internet face saving.
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Well, at least I'm the best at something I suppose. Golf claps all around. |
Bigverne wants to extend the limits of the mocking...can we also add theology/religious studies...or is that asking too much?
If yes...then most definitely...golf claps all around.  |
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Fox
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