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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: 30 hours a week job |
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I was looking at this ad http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=60826 and it says 120 hours a month which would be 30 hours a week. So are you paid a 40 hour salary while working only 30 hours? |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Usurname
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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What kind of hours do they give for elementary and middle?
Are the elementary or middle the easiest to teach?
I guess for middle school there might be more gradings you have to do? |
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nicwr2002
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: 30 hours a week job |
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Don't be fooled. The 120 hours is only teaching hours. That doesn't include office hours. You are still working a 40 hour week and if you are teaching kindy, it will seem longer. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: 30 hours a week job |
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30 CONTACT hours per week / 120 contact/class hours per month ....
DOES NOT MEAN 120 WORK HOURS per month.
That 120 hours does NOT include the time you need to put into lesson planning, material creation, etc. (read the "duties" in your contract).
Teaching (if you plan to actually stay employed) is a 40-hour to 50 hour per week (at the school) job.
Since you are a "salaried" (rather than an hourly rate) employee there is no "overtime" for that other stuff that you need to do or the time you spend at your desk when not teaching.
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MedellinHeel
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:41 am Post subject: |
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You can pretty much assume / expect you will be working 8 hours a day 5 days a week. |
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Usurname
Joined: 21 Oct 2011
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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So.. how much hours do you guys put in to prepare for class? |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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So.. how much hours do you guys put in to prepare for class? |
How many hours ??
Newbies (to teaching or new to a class/subject) who are any good usually put about 1 hour of prep into a 1 hour class.
AFTER you have been at it for a while you have a bank of stuff built up so you only spend about 20-30 minutes to properly prep for a 1 hour class.
(longer for writing classes since marking takes a LOONG time).
Newbies who spend 5 minutes at the copy machine before class as their prep usually don't last long. Classroom management becomes a significant issue for them due to the lack of planning and prep and they wonder why they never get past the entry level jobs.
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Usurname
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Newbies who spend 5 minutes at the copy machine before class as their prep usually don't last long. Classroom management becomes a significant issue for them due to the lack of planning and prep and they wonder why they never get past the entry level jobs. |
So you won't get fired even if you spend only 5 minutes to prepare for class? |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Kyungbuk
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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30 teaching hours a week is dreadful.
To prepare for these kinds of classes I give a quick writing assignment at the start of class to give me time to see where I bookmarked where I left off from the previous class. From there I just think of what to do next right on the spot. |
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Usurname
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Zackback wrote: |
30 teaching hours a week is dreadful.
To prepare for these kinds of classes I give a quick writing assignment at the start of class to give me time to see where I bookmarked where I left off from the previous class. From there I just think of what to do next right on the spot. |
What is it that you do that you think of right on the spot? |
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Zackback
Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: Kyungbuk
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Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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depends on what picture I see in the book.
if they show some guy walking his dog in the rain i just easily think of topics from that.
do you feel blue on rainy days?...most of them do
do you own a dog or other pet?
if the man is dressed really nice i ask what kind of job he may have?...or tell me something about this man's life (students have to make up a story - that's when it can get really weird and funny)
is his dog a good dog or bad dog...why?
etc etc
ya know, things like this.... |
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Aine1979
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Usurname wrote: |
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Newbies who spend 5 minutes at the copy machine before class as their prep usually don't last long. Classroom management becomes a significant issue for them due to the lack of planning and prep and they wonder why they never get past the entry level jobs. |
So you won't get fired even if you spend only 5 minutes to prepare for class? |
That's an impossible question to answer, it would be totally up to the school. If your classes are badly prepared and parents complain, or pull their kids out, you could well be fired.
How much prep I do depends on the age group and the books. For kindergarten, I do very little prep (outside art class), because I've taught all the books before. Lower level elementary takes a bit more work because the kids need to be kept interested. Advanced elementary is more work again, because there's a lot more independent work involved. For middle school and summer/winter intensives I do a lot of preparation because they are extremely high level students. |
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Usurname
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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And if you are fired is it hard to get another job in the industry? |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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And if you are fired is it hard to get another job in the industry? |
In the industry = no. The demand for EFL teachers in Asia far outstrips supply.
In the same country = maybe.
You may have to change countries due to visa issues.
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