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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Location: In between the lines
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:03 am Post subject: YOUR approach..philosophy on teaching English... |
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I have mine...
But, I am curious to know other approaches.
(gotta be willing to learn, ya know).
Anyone? |
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mysteryadam
Joined: 27 Jan 2011
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Speak softly and carry a lot of board markers. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have mine...
But, I am curious to know other approaches.
(gotta be willing to learn, ya know).
Anyone? |
You show me yours, I'll show you mine..... |
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maximmm
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Dude, just fill out the EPIK form and stop asking us to do it for you!^^
Last edited by maximmm on Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:16 am; edited 1 time in total |
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le-paul

Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Location: dans la chambre
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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i believe no one has the right to education and everyone has to work hard for it.
The stupid kids are just a waste of time ( dont write 'stupid' - say something like 'mental spastics' it sounds more professional) - you should concentrate your energy on the clever ones.
There are no stupid questions - only stupid answers. |
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SeoulNate

Joined: 04 Jun 2010 Location: Hyehwa
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Dude, just fill out the EPIK form and stop us to do it for you!^^ |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Location: In between the lines
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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OK, well...I posted this in a different topic but I think it is also applicable here, as well.
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"stupid" came from his own mouth...
Some of you are just a nasty, spiteful lot (and this is not limited to this particular index)...comparing a kid who just needed a little guidance and encouragement to, "Hitler Youth"....? It would ave been very easy to simply choose the student everyone was pointing at, i.e., the smartest one. However, she has a natural disposition, in which case, is not a fault. But, the one I chose for "class captain", probably has not had the form of encouragement as the other...and though I do not mistake effort with results, I do not ignore a student who I think CAN do it but just needs some encouragement.
To an extent, it is a bit amusing to actually read posts that seemingly go out of their way to be gaudy, obsequious to their own bitterness, and take umbrage to posts that while ARE written by choice, project a dilettantish approach to project spite.
When I say "amusing", I say in a context that projects an underscored gratitude, that while nobody is perfect, at least I do not posses this lack of sagacity, that some here have.. |
Moving on...no, I am not looking to work with EPIK. I do not wish to be disgruntled, nor do I wish to allow myself to NOT waste my time on "stupid kids". As I mentioned some time ago, this is not my first time in Korea and I refuse to adopt the attitude that some here are projecting.
Now, the poster who mentioned speaking and a big stick....very basic and is applicable. I like that...T.R. is giving you a nod.
To Lucas...OK, then.
I see learning English, or any foreign language, is comparable to learning to play a musical instrument.
1. You have to know what you are reading.
2. You have to know what you are hearing.
3. You have to know how to process that information in your brain.
4. You have to be ready to communicate said information.
5. You have to know how to use your instrument
6. You have to practice.
As one who studied music a long time a go, in a galaxy, far, far away...I find these concepts match quite nicely in how I approach engaging the students.
So...YOU can use that on YOUR EPIK application. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Classroom Mood and Control is everything.
Me, I rarely write on the board and never give stamps/rewards.
K-kids are all about connection. So, I connect with the kids.
K-students are all about duty. So, I make sure they know we HAVE to study these pages today.
A lot of repeating, a lot of questions.
I control my conversations with the kids. I dont speak above their heads.
I also control bad ones by appealing to their sense of duty and then if they doesnt work,
I have the other kids beat them down
I also have a dont fuqkc with me thing for the other ones, and a soft look for the younger ones.
Ive generally done very well, and made a decernt wage throughout my time here,
I also speak Korean but wont in class, and when I speak to them, Ill relate things they like, maybe with the Korean word, but in the middle of an English sentence.
I guess thats what I do. Works for me... |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Location: In between the lines
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Classroom Mood and Control is everything.
Me, I rarely write on the board and never give stamps/rewards.
K-kids are all about connection. So, I connect with the kids.
K-students are all about duty. So, I make sure they know we HAVE to study these pages today.
A lot of repeating, a lot of questions.
I control my conversations with the kids. I dont speak above their heads.
I also control bad ones by appealing to their sense of duty and then if they doesnt work,
I have the other kids beat them down
I also have a dont fuqkc with me thing for the other ones, and a soft look for the younger ones.
Ive generally done very well, and made a decernt wage throughout my time here,
I also speak Korean but wont in class, and when I speak to them, Ill relate things they like, maybe with the Korean word, but in the middle of an English sentence.
I guess thats what I do. Works for me.. |
Bingo..well said. |
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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I see learning English, or any foreign language, is comparable to learning to play a musical instrument. |
What? Fingering lots of small holes!
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1. You have to know what you are reading.
2. You have to know what you are hearing.
3. You have to know how to process that information in your brain.
4. You have to be ready to communicate said information.
5. You have to know how to use your instrument
6. You have to practice.
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I think you're mildly Autistic. |
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mysteryadam
Joined: 27 Jan 2011
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| happiness wrote: |
Classroom Mood and Control is everything.
Me, I rarely write on the board and never give stamps/rewards.
K-kids are all about connection. So, I connect with the kids.
K-students are all about duty. So, I make sure they know we HAVE to study these pages today.
A lot of repeating, a lot of questions.
I control my conversations with the kids. I dont speak above their heads.
I also control bad ones by appealing to their sense of duty and then if they doesnt work,
I have the other kids beat them down
I also have a dont fuqkc with me thing for the other ones, and a soft look for the younger ones.
Ive generally done very well, and made a decernt wage throughout my time here,
I also speak Korean but wont in class, and when I speak to them, Ill relate things they like, maybe with the Korean word, but in the middle of an English sentence.
I guess thats what I do. Works for me... |
I'm sorry, but this is neither the sign of a good teacher nor something to be proud of. Many people are visual learners.
I want to be very clear: I am not questioning your teaching methods overall. I am sure you are a good teacher. I just think you need to perhaps rethink this one aspect of your teaching philosophy.
Also, I want to say that, in my own humble experience, giving stickers and rewards to young kids can put a smile on their face and brighten up their already miserable day. Of course, you have a point regarding mindless praise and the Western habit of giving everyone a trophy for shoddy work. However, you might find that you catch more flies with sugar than with vinegar. Especially when dealing with the younger ones/kindergarteners.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Hope that helps. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Location: In between the lines
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course, you have a point regarding mindless praise and the Western habit of giving everyone a trophy for shoddy work. |
THAT, is an unfortunate truth. |
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isitts
Joined: 25 Dec 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:15 am Post subject: Re: YOUR approach..philosophy on teaching English... |
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| trueblue wrote: |
| (gotta be willing to learn, ya know). |
| trueblue wrote: |
| As I mentioned some time ago, this is not my first time in Korea and I refuse to adopt the attitude that some here are projecting. |
These two ideas seem to contradict each other. But good luck with your learning.
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| So...YOU can use that on YOUR EPIK application. |
Oh, you meant that we could learn from you. Ok, I got it. Thanks...but, I do not wish to share my philosophy with you nor do I wish to read your ideas (unless I'm having trouble falling asleep). |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Location: In between the lines
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:25 am Post subject: |
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trueblue wrote:
(gotta be willing to learn, ya know).
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trueblue wrote:
As I mentioned some time ago, this is not my first time in Korea and I refuse to adopt the attitude that some here are projecting. |
The projection of bitterness and negativity....
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| These two ideas seem to contradict each other. But good luck with your learning. |
I may need it...but I"m optimistic.
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trueblue wrote:
So...YOU can use that on YOUR EPIK application.
Oh, you meant that we could learn from you. Ok, I got it. Thanks...but, I do not wish to share my philosophy with you nor do I wish to read your ideas (unless I'm having trouble falling asleep |
Go back and read what was written before. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014 Location: In between the lines
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, you meant that we could learn from you. Ok, I got it. Thanks...but, I do not wish to share my philosophy with you nor do I wish to read your ideas (unless I'm having trouble falling asleep |
That quote, was not from me.
Adjust fire on that. |
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