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catman



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radcon wrote:
US team showed extreme heart in defeat. Well done.


Tim Howard kept it from being a blowout.

Anyway a successful tournament for the US considering the group they came out of. Probably the best English speaking football team now.
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
radcon wrote:
US team showed extreme heart in defeat. Well done.


Tim Howard kept it from being a blowout.
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Howard finished with 16 saves, the most ever recorded by a goalkeeper in World Cup history.

Belgium was the better team, but still, the US had their chances.
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catman



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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German magazine Der Spiegel alleged that hours before the Cameroon-Croatia a convicted match fixer, Wilson Raj Perumal, correctly predicted the outcome and that Cameroon would have a player sent off in the first half.


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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wild Ride by U.S. Comes to End, but Soccer Is the Winner
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/02/sports/soccer/world-cup-2014-belgium-eliminates-team-usa.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumMediumMediaFloated&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

"Americans purchased more tickets to games at this tournament than fans from any country other than Brazil. Television ratings in the United States blasted through ceilings, surpassing those of the N.B.A. finals or the World Series.

Including Tuesday’s games, 154 goals have been scored, which is more than the total for the entire 2010 World Cup. Also, for casual American fans who find watching games end in ties about as appealing as doing their taxes, the past few weeks have been a revelation: There were only nine draws in 48 group stage games, or four fewer than the average over the past four World Cups."
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On a local level, my hometown now has a very successful MLS team - the Orlando City Lions, and they just made a splash by signing Brazilian soccer icon Kaká to a 3.5 year contract. For PR purposes, they could not have timed it any better, as they introduced him to several hundred fans gathered in downtown Orlando to watch the US-Belgium match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKFSebanyIw
Not only that, but they are about to break ground on a new stadium right downtown.

Yep, it seems like the sleeping giant is finally awakening!
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trueblue



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yep, it seems like the sleeping giant is finally awakening!



Perhaps...and it may be because the U.S. actually had a good coach. If it were up to me, I would keep him.


I wish the same idea applied to the U.S. rugby team...
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andrewchon



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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector7G wrote:

On a local level, my hometown now has a very successful MLS team - the Orlando City Lions


Would you like to explain how a team that hasn't even played a game yet gets to be very successful ? Laughing
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Sector7G wrote:

On a local level, my hometown now has a very successful MLS team - the Orlando City Lions


Would you like to explain how a team that hasn't even played a game yet gets to be very successful ? Laughing
I'm not sure where you got the impression that they had not played a game.

Orlando City rolls past LA Galaxy II, extends USL-PRO unbeaten streak to 16
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2014-06-28/sports/os-orlando-city-la-galaxy-0629-20140628_1_orlando-city-lions-la-galaxy-ii-miguel-gallardo


June 28, 2014|By Bryan Levine, For the Orlando Sentinel

The Orlando City Lions' domination of the USL-PRO foes continued Saturday with a decisive 3-0 victory against the LA Galaxy II in front of an announced crowd of 5,029 fans at ESPN Wide World of Sports.

The Lions extended their club record of consecutive USL-PRO matches without a loss to 16.
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Kaká adds to Orlando City's perfect summer surge
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2014-06-20/sports/os-orlando-city-kaka-mls-0621-20140620_1_orlando-city-usl-pro-2007-fifa-world-player

Two days after that, the World Cup kicked off and 2015 season tickets went on sale. Orlando City plans to cap its season ticket sales at around 14,000. It has already reached 35 percent of that number in a little more than a week.

"I couldn't be more delighted with where we are in terms of the journey to MLS and being ready for MLS," Rawlins said. "We're in great shape right now. The 5,000 season tickets already sold, the fact that we're close to concluding the deal with a player of Kaká's stature, the fact that we've already signed five players. … The pieces are in place."
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candy bar



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Sector7G wrote:

On a local level, my hometown now has a very successful MLS team - the Orlando City Lions


Would you like to explain how a team that hasn't even played a game yet gets to be very successful ? Laughing


You made yourself look like a real doofus! Laughing
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andrewchon



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Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

candy bar wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Sector7G wrote:

On a local level, my hometown now has a very successful MLS team - the Orlando City Lions


Would you like to explain how a team that hasn't even played a game yet gets to be very successful ? Laughing


You made yourself look like a real doofus! Laughing


USL-PRO is not MLS, no?

Talk about having pride in making your high-school Hall of Fame.
Laughing

Have news for you: MLS is considered a semi-pro league by the rest of the world. USL-PRO are two notches below that, and is not even a promotional league to MLS. Would you say winning in semi-pro-amateur league as success? If you're small town team like say Genets d'Anglet in French CFA-C, then yes. But Orlando is not a small town, is it? Perhaps what he really meant was, a very ambitious team, then the description fits. Otherwice, success comes only after some major silverware.
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Squire



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great weekend of football coming up! I'm hoping Colombia and Belgium get through, and I don't mind what happens in the other games. Costa Rica making the semis would be an incredible story but I'm hoping neither Brazil or Argentina win the whole thing and Netherlands would be a better bet to stop either of them

It's going to take extraordinary willpower to get up at 5 for the second game tomorrow morning. Staying up til 3 is hard enough for me, but the WC is hotting up now and no work tomorrow Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
candy bar wrote:
andrewchon wrote:
Sector7G wrote:

On a local level, my hometown now has a very successful MLS team - the Orlando City Lions


Would you like to explain how a team that hasn't even played a game yet gets to be very successful ? Laughing


You made yourself look like a real doofus! Laughing


USL-PRO is not MLS, no?

Talk about having pride in making your high-school Hall of Fame.
Laughing

Have news for you: MLS is considered a semi-pro league by the rest of the world. USL-PRO are two notches below that, and is not even a promotional league to MLS. Would you say winning in semi-pro-amateur league as success? If you're small town team like say Genets d'Anglet in French CFA-C, then yes. But Orlando is not a small town, is it? Perhaps what he really meant was, a very ambitious team, then the description fits. Otherwice, success comes only after some major silverware.
Hey, I don't know why you're mad at me. I'm not the one who called you a doofus. I merely addressed your comment about them never playing a game. Ok, I see now that you were making a distinction about not having played a game yet in the MSL and you are correct in that.

But I didn't say anything about pride and I was not comparing Orlando City to the rest of the world - I was commenting on the surge in popularity the sport is enjoying in the USA in general and my hometown in particular.

Maybe ambitious would have been a better word to use, but success is a relative term, and compared to what things were like for the sport in the US even 2 or 3 years ago I still say they(the organization) have been very successful in what they have accomplished - ticket sales, the signing of Kaka, and yes, even on the field.
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squire wrote:
Great weekend of football coming up! I'm hoping Colombia and Belgium get through, and I don't mind what happens in the other games. Costa Rica making the semis would be an incredible story but I'm hoping neither Brazil or Argentina win the whole thing and Netherlands would be a better bet to stop either of them
I was actually pulling for Netherlands early on but did not like the way they got by Mexico and also agree it would be great if Costa Rica advances, especially as they belong to CONCACAF, same as the US. Other than that I just want to see some great action and hope whoever wins does it through skill, in regulation time or extra time, but not by penalty kicks.
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aq8knyus



Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
radcon wrote:
US team showed extreme heart in defeat. Well done.


Tim Howard kept it from being a blowout.

Anyway a successful tournament for the US considering the group they came out of. Probably the best English speaking football team now.


The US did fantastically by their standards, but saying that they are better than England or the Rep. of Ireland on the basis of one poor world cup played in the Americas is a bit much.
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robbie_davies



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aq8knyus wrote:
catman wrote:
radcon wrote:
US team showed extreme heart in defeat. Well done.


Tim Howard kept it from being a blowout.

Anyway a successful tournament for the US considering the group they came out of. Probably the best English speaking football team now.


The US did fantastically by their standards, but saying that they are better than England or the Rep. of Ireland on the basis of one poor world cup played in the Americas is a bit much.


I would say that was a fair comment. The US team would have beaten England handily based on their respective performances.
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aq8knyus



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would say that was a fair comment. The US team would have beaten England handily based on their respective performances.


I dont think the US played so well that they could say they would beat England 'handily'.

The losses to Italy and Uruguay+ Suraez whilst disappointing doesn't mean England are crap. I think you could make the case that at Brazil 2014 Uruguay+ Suraez and Costa Rica were much better sides than Portugal or Ghana.
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