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Is Kim Jong Un Still In Control of North Korea?
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:03 pm    Post subject: Is Kim Jong Un Still In Control of North Korea? Reply with quote

Not according to this article ... https://news.vice.com/article/former-top-official-says-kim-jong-un-is-no-longer-in-control-of-north-korea?utm_source=vicenewstwitter

Admittedly, I'd never heard of Vice News - The article seems fairly well written, while many of the ensuing comments are crude...
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Leon



Joined: 31 May 2010

PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An elite group of exiles... According to Jang — a former counterintelligence official and poet laureate under Kim Jong-il ...

Remember how accurate the advice from Iraqi exiles was? They will greet us with open hands and candy, etc.
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The guy has been conspicuously absent though. They've been blaming it on gout.
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Leon



Joined: 31 May 2010

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

silkhighway wrote:
The guy has been conspicuously absent though. They've been blaming it on gout.


Have you seen the guy? In this case, I'd say gout is pretty likely.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the rumors have continued nonetheless ... Here's an article with some analysis from a fairly reliable news source - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/05/has-north-korea-s-kim-jong-un-been-toppled.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29
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W.T.Carl



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With North Korea anything is possible. I guess we have to wait until the 10th to see who is sitting on the viewing stand.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's my way out there angle to this...

Maybe he's dead (died of naturally), and they are just keeping the fact secret. If things go south, the military can claim they killed him and saved the county. Maybe the visit to the Asian games was a prelude to unification talks under South Korean terms.
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...or maybe there was a botched surgery, or freak occurrence like a blood clot leaving him incapacitated and senior leadership in North Korea is keeping it a secret because they don't know what to do yet.

Ahhh, exciting and scary times. Probably all to be dispelled in a couple of days when Glorious Leader makes an appearance, haha.
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guavashake



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

During the recent Asian Games, the title for Kim Jong Un consistently was translated as "Respected Marshal" in English, when DPRK medalists were interviewed at post-medal press conferences.

So, it seems the current title for Jong Un is Respected Marshal, not Supreme Leader, or other terms of endearment for Kim Il Sung, the perpetual president.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a bit more info and speculation from CNN ... http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/world/asia/north-korea-where-is-kim-jong-un/index.html
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Here's a bit more info and speculation from CNN ... http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/world/asia/north-korea-where-is-kim-jong-un/index.html


Wow, that guy got FAT! Shocked
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aq8knyus



Joined: 28 Jul 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will know by Friday if there is something going on behind the scenes.

October 10th is Party Foundation Day in NK and is not something you just skip. If he is not present then it is good evidence that something is happening to either Kim or the regime itself.

The fact that the usual experts are also baffled by what's going on is even more intriguing.


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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gastric bypass surgery/liposuction.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again, "you can't change horses in midstream..." might apply if the analysis in this article proves true: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2014/10/07/North-Korea-readying-for-war-says-Seoul/9801412717182/
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some media outlets are reporting that Pyeongyang is in lock down.

Dunh dunh dunhhhhh....
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